World Wide... One Child Policy

Started by BridgeTroll, December 11, 2009, 12:48:08 PM

BridgeTroll

Quoteoverpopulation will expand all the other issues into a global catastrophe

"global catastrophe" and "end to our planet" are very different things.  Which apocalyptic vision do you have for this over population issue you seem to find so dire?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

JaxNative68

there are many possibilities that could turn the human race upon itself even greater than it is now creating global war and destruction that could make this planet uninhabitable:

lack of clean water
lack of enough farm land for adequate food production
lack of enough energy
lack of ways to eliminate waste
pollution that turns our oceans an other waterways even more toxic
religious clashes due to population densities
political clashes due to population densities
cultural clashes due to population densities
financial issues with supply and demand of life sustaining products
the disparager between the rich and poor will grow even greater
the lack of inhabitable land for population expansion without leveling the rain forests

I’m sure there are many more items to put on this list, but I really don’t care to put the energy into it.

redglittercoffin

Quote from: JaxNative68 on December 17, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
there are many possibilities that could turn the human race upon itself even greater than it is now creating global war and destruction that could make this planet uninhabitable:

lack of clean water
lack of enough farm land for adequate food production
lack of enough energy
lack of ways to eliminate waste
pollution that turns our oceans an other waterways even more toxic
religious clashes due to population densities
political clashes due to population densities
cultural clashes due to population densities
financial issues with supply and demand of life sustaining products
the disparager between the rich and poor will grow even greater
the lack of inhabitable land for population expansion without leveling the rain forests

I’m sure there are many more items to put on this list, but I really don’t care to put the energy into it.


Won't all of those clashes and limited resources, in effect, limit the population growth?
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JeffreyS

On the discovery channel one show said in prim-apes sperm count goes up with competition for females and down in apes more assured of their position with their mates.
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Dog Walker

?????  That doesn't effect population, if that's what you are getting at.  It only takes one or two if she is going to have twins.
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Reaper man

Quote from: JaxNative68 on December 17, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
lack of enough energy

...

I’m sure there are many more items to put on this list, but I really don’t care to put the energy into it.

See, we're already having to conserve energy! We're doomed! ;p

Doctor_K

Quote from: Johnny on December 16, 2009, 12:59:21 PM
I remember a tv show or something from decades ago, it had a lotto where people would win an opportunity to give their life for the greater good of the planet. They seemed excited... Anyone willing to be first?
I think that was part of the plot of an episode of Sliders.
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Johnny

That's it... good job Doctor! Only an episode too, it must have had some impact for both of us to remember it. 

JaxNative68

Not willling to be first, but can I nominate a few people?

Johnny


fatcat

there are several episodes in Star trek discuss various way of dealing with limited resources. We can discuss the detail in a different thread.

As for population control, consider our current government policy:
1. for people who pays tax: each child means more tax deduction
2. For people receive refundable tax credits: each child means eligibility and/or more tax credit
3. For people receive assistant in housing: children means eligibility and/or larger house
4. For people receives food stamps: each additional children means more food stamps
5. For people without children: pay for the public schools and youth programs that spend on other people's children and donate to the boy scout/girl scout like organization that children of your neighbors or colleagues.

if people react to incentives, what is the motivation of giving all these incentives?

buckethead

A tax on consumption rather that taxing income with deductions, would de-incentivize overbreeding, while rewarding conservation, saving and investment.

Too bad nothing of the sort has ever been proposed. :-X

JagFan07

Quote from: buckethead on December 24, 2009, 08:34:01 AM
A tax on consumption rather that taxing income with deductions, would de-incentivize overbreeding, while rewarding conservation, saving and investment.

Too bad nothing of the sort has ever been proposed. :-X

The Fair Tax addresses this while not penalizing our most needy citizens.

http://fairtax.org
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Johnny


buckethead

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Quote from: Johnny on December 24, 2009, 10:09:28 AM
Quote from: JagFan07 on December 24, 2009, 10:02:53 AM
The Fair Tax addresses this while not penalizing our most needy citizens.

http://fairtax.org

Indeed
So you guys are telling me that a consuption tax, that eliminates the poorest Americans from any tax liability (including payroll taxes), eliminates taxation on income, eliminates corporate taxes (a huge boon to our econonmy... Watch the investment money rush back to our shores), rewards saving and investment, is revenue nuetral, effectively puts imports on a level playing field with American produced goods, encourages conservation, and does not reward overbreeding has been proposed?

There is no way, because congress would be foolish not to enact such smart and effective legislation.



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