Labor Day News: 'Young Workers: A Lost Decade’

Started by FayeforCure, September 05, 2009, 12:48:43 PM

DavidWilliams

...don't want to be an ass but...I go here for original (local individuals) thought and discussion that pertains to this area. I can take all viewpoints etc. but if I want everything "political" I can turn on my TV and be bombarded  :P

DavidWilliams

Quote from: stephendare on September 09, 2009, 11:16:50 PM
Quote from: DavidWilliams on September 09, 2009, 10:51:31 PM
Can a cut and paste "maximum" be voted in on this site? Some are WAY too long.



We actually prefer well documented responses, David.   It cuts out on allegations with no sources and namecalling


To each his own. "Well documented" is up for debate.  :-X

Burn to Shine

Quote from: buckethead on September 09, 2009, 06:29:50 PM
It does sting indeed. I hope it was clear that I intended that for myself as much as anyone else.

You sound niether apathetic nor slothful.

And BTW never take up for Faye. You'll get a sermon either way you go. Might as well just agitate! ;)

Clear as a bell.  ;)

Captain Zissou

Maybe if we all just ignore her, Faye will go away.

I'm sorry, maybe I should have clarified my story earlier.

While I have a job currently, this wasn't the case for a long time.  I was a financial analyst with a national commercial brokerage for my final semester in school.  I was to continue on full time after graduation, and was heavily invested in by the company.  The office started to decline and my job offer was withdrawn.  Keep in mind, this was one week before I was to graduate.  For the next two months, I sent out two applications a day to over a hundred companies, and didn't stop until I had accepted an offer.  I took a large pay cut from my initial offer, but that's better than eating refried beans on tortillas four meals a week. 
So, it hasn't been a cake walk, but I DO believe that hard work will get Burn to Shine and others where they want to go. I'm not changing my stance now because that's what got me through those months and made those skipped meals and lonely nights bearable.  So everyone can call me self centered if they want. I'd say what I'm feeling, but I'd rather not get banned.
   

Captain Zissou

Quote from: stephendare on September 10, 2009, 03:08:35 PM

I don't understand whats got you in such a dither

^Faye.

I hope to never have my lights cut off, but I did have 87 dollars to my name on the day of my first paycheck.  You should write a book, Sdare.  A memoir of life in Cowford, with the trials and tribulations of a small business owner.


Burn to Shine

Quote from: Captain Zissou on September 10, 2009, 03:39:52 PM
Quote from: stephendare on September 10, 2009, 03:08:35 PM

I don't understand whats got you in such a dither

^Faye.

I hope to never have my lights cut off, but I did have 87 dollars to my name on the day of my first paycheck.  You should write a book, Sdare.  A memoir of life in Cowford, with the trials and tribulations of a small business owner.

Well at least you'll admit you know where I'm coming from.  I might as well not even have a checking account.  However, I do have an interview tomorrow!!!!!!  Wish me luck!  :D

buckethead

Good luck to you. I think they will offer you double.!

Let's hope it's double the money.;)

FayeforCure

Quote from: Captain Zissou on September 10, 2009, 02:39:08 PM
Maybe if we all just ignore her, Faye will go away.

Not a chance. Not enough women speaking up as it is  ;)


Quote from: Captain Zissou on September 10, 2009, 02:39:08 PM
I'm sorry, maybe I should have clarified my story earlier.

While I have a job currently, this wasn't the case for a long time.  I was a financial analyst with a national commercial brokerage for my final semester in school.  I was to continue on full time after graduation, and was heavily invested in by the company.  The office started to decline and my job offer was withdrawn.  Keep in mind, this was one week before I was to graduate.  For the next two months, I sent out two applications a day to over a hundred companies, and didn't stop until I had accepted an offer.  I took a large pay cut from my initial offer, but that's better than eating refried beans on tortillas four meals a week. 
So, it hasn't been a cake walk, but I DO believe that hard work will get Burn to Shine and others where they want to go. I'm not changing my stance now because that's what got me through those months and made those skipped meals and lonely nights bearable.  So everyone can call me self centered if they want. I'd say what I'm feeling, but I'd rather not get banned.
   
Captain Zissou,  I am so sorry hearing your job offer was withdrawn one week before you were to graduate. Good for you to send out applications to over one hundred companies. I can identify with that situation. I too was in the job market looking for my first job post graduation, during a recession. In 1981, I sent out almost 250 resumes, before finally landing a job nine months later. Those were desperate times, and I felt so lucky when it finally came together.

That's how I know, from personal experience, that hard work alone is not enough.

After my divorce I raised 5 children on my own, and have seen too many women barely surviving, no matter how hard they work. After all, as you know women still only make about 75% of what men make for the same work.
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
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Burn to Shine

Quote from: FayeforCure on September 10, 2009, 07:53:08 PMAfter all, as you know women still only make about 75% of what men make for the same work.

I can agree with this - it might not be as much as 75% but I do know that it is considerably less. 

Burn to Shine

Quote from: buckethead on September 10, 2009, 06:05:23 PM
Good luck to you. I think they will offer you double.!

Let's hope it's double the money.;)

w00t!

NotNow

I took care of my kids after my divorce as well.  Without a dime of child support from my ex-wife.  And in all of the jobs that I have had in my adult life, women make equal pay as men.  Just my personal experience. :)
Deo adjuvante non timendum

DavidWilliams

Quote from: NotNow on September 10, 2009, 10:24:49 PM
I took care of my kids after my divorce as well.  Without a dime of child support from my ex-wife.  And in all of the jobs that I have had in my adult life, women make equal pay as men.  Just my personal experience. :)


Did you do all of that (being Dad) and STILL have to pay the ex? I have had a similar experience.  In many ways (probably most ways) the courts are very much stacked in favor of the mother.
With you on the pay of women as well. I cant think of an instance (in the past 15-20 years of my professional life) where a female makes less simply because she is a female
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NotNow

Yes, I learned all about "no fault" divorce.  She got a boyfriend, got the house, got the car, and got alimony.  I got the kids.   So I figure that I won, in a way.  But it definitely is not fair.  Don't get me started on the divorce courts.  The sexual bias is outrageous.  EVERYTHING is set up to award the females.   
Deo adjuvante non timendum

Burn to Shine

Being from AL, I've seen the pay difference - it's for real.  Maybe things are different here.  I hope so.