Chicago Pizza coming to the Landing

[JaxNative68]

BTW, does this mean that of the restaraunt spaces in the Landing, the old Copper Cellar is the only one that is still vacant, correct?

You know, opening this thing up would make such a difference.  That has to happen.

Yes, all of the waterfront spaces will be filled except for Copper Cellar and the Deep Blue space above it.  My guess is thats where Peterbrooke will end up, assuming other retail spaces aren't shifted.

By the way, after spending a few days in the Inner Harbor, I've come to the conclusion that their Rouse center is no better than ours.  Like the Landing, it looks dated, has quite a few vacant interior retail spots and is definately not the reason people flock down there.  However, the central courtyard area does open up to the rest of downtown.  I think people under estimate how huge it would be for Northbank to open up the Landing's courtyard with the rest of downtown.

Baltimore's Inner Harbor and Rouse complex

During Orioles and Ravens home games the place gets packed; not to mention the Inner Harbour does have other places of destination around it (within walking distance) that really help it, such as the aquarium and thriving city neighborhoods.  If I remember correctly the convention center is next door.

Can't say that for the landing.

[JaxNative68]

This is good news. Their pizza is awesome, HOWEVER, skip buying a drink since they charge for refills! 

their beer is cheap, drink that, and you already expect to pay to get it refilled.

[JaxNative68]

I'm not a fan of Hooters and their outdated ugly shorts

Oh yeah, their work uniforms are horrendous.

i thought the idea was to look at what was holding up the uniform rather than the uniform itself.

[tufsu1]

To each their own...bottom line is that Hooters does quite well (one of the top grossing in the chain)....now maybe that says something about th people that are attracted to the Landing...or maybe about people ikn Jax. in general.

As for Dave & Busters downtown, don't hold your breath!

[David]

Meh, just go to Wackos if you want hoo-wores serving your food. None of this half-assesedness business (no pun!)

Trranslation: Chicago Pizza will be a nice alternative.

[thelakelander]

During Orioles and Ravens home games the place gets packed; not to mention the Inner Harbour does have other places of destination around it (within walking distance) that really help it, such as the aquarium and thriving city neighborhoods.  If I remember correctly the convention center is next door.

Can't say that for the landing.

True, however the Inner Harbor's courtyard does open up to downtown and serves as the central gathering spot for the entire area.  Just goes to show what can happen when you embrace density, clustering and connectivity.  We can have the same here with a little smart planning and implementation.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Lets not forget that the Landing's courtyard could and should be already opened to downtown, but we all know what happen what that plan. I would imagine that will never come to be. I am just glad that the Landing has been able to draw new tenants in despite losing some along the way.

[thelakelander]

Another reason for improving the area around the Landing and why opening its courtyard up to downtown should be considered again.

The Jacksonville Landing remains a multi-shop stop

Nudge said recent data confirms that the Landing is Jacksonville's most heavily-visited single place for out-of-towners. A Visit Jacksonville report released in April noted that the Landing was by far the most common attraction for visitors - 39 percent of respondents said they went there in 2007 and 43 percent said the same in 2008. Visit Jacksonville conducts its visitor profile surveys at hotels and "other high volume tourism locations" in Duval County, according to the April report.

link to article: http://www.jacksonville.com/business/2009-07-22/story/the_jacksonville_landing_remains_a_multi_shop_stop

[thelakelander]

Hopefully he is not holding his breath for those extra 800 parking spots.

Sleiman said he hopes someday the city will be able to make good on a 24-year-old promise made to the Landing's original developer, Rouse Co., for 800 spaces. The parking has nearly come several times, but the Landing still has a 240-space parking lot to its east, which Sleiman owns.

[Keith-N-Jax]

I seriously doubt Sleiman is going to spend millions of dollars on that property when the city continues to own the land. (quote 24 year old promise)-- yeah thats right, that sound like the city of Jacksonville thats how they operate here in decades. Of course the landing would be the most visted place in DT Jax. Nice views of the river and bridges, riverwalk, places to eat/drink and maybe shop. Also the Landing is near two major hotels Omni/Hyatt and a short walk to the Baystreet area. I've never been to Chicago's Pizza so I will have to try them out once they open.

[tufsu1]

The City's 24-year old promise relates to providing parking....not some reneged upon land deal....and to their defense, plans fromn several developers of the land across the street (which would have inclued the rquisite parking) have not panned out.

Another point...Baltimore's Harborplace, Boston's Fanueil Hall, and New York's South Street SDeaport don't have on-site parking.....has it hurt them?

FYI....in order to provide the parking, the City would need to buy that parcel of land and then construct a garage that would cost at least $15 million to build.

Where should that money come from?

[thelakelander]

Imo, we should not blow off the Landing's parking situation so fast.  Its hard to compare the Landing's situation to Fanueil Hall and South Street Seaport.  Both are located in dense compact districts with pedestrian traffic Jacksonville never had even in its best days.  Also, both areas are served by subway systems that have been established for nearly a century.  If the Northbank had Boston's or New York's density and efficient mass transit that connected it with the rest of the city, the Landing's parking issues would not be the problem it is today.

As for Harborplace, there are a number of well identified public parking garages surrounding it, including one under the Gallery (which is also a part of the Harborplace complex).  You can't drive within a block of it without seeing a big "P" either across the street or on a side street.

http://www.baltimore.to/Parking/index.html

If the Landing were surrounded by well identified public parking garages that were visibly connected to the center (with a set of spaces set aside for the Landing), perhaps the parking situation would not be what it is today.

FYI....in order to provide the parking, the City would need to buy that parcel of land and then construct a garage that would cost at least $15 million to build.

Where should that money come from?

Could selling the land underneath the Landing work?  I wonder how many years would it take to recoup $15 million from the sale and annual property taxes?  However, from what I hear, the garage across the street still maybe a go.

[assorted]

Can someone tell me where exactly the chicago pizza is going in?  Cant remember where ruby tuesday was

[Shwaz]

Ruby Tues was located underneath where Gold's Gym is now. 1st floor, on the river and first location on the west side.

[copperfiend]

Ruby Tues was located underneath where Gold's Gym is now. 1st floor, on the river and first location on the west side.

The dead zone.