Local Warning: Corporate Rationing Purging the Sick

[Dog Walker]

We need to move either toward a system like education, where it is paid for by society for the good of society with an option to enhance the basic stuff with private choices (like education) or move to a completely free market system with full competition between all health care providers with no "licensing" requirements.  Food is a necessity for life, a "right" if you will, but except for food stamps, it is completely provided by private entities.

This half and half system we have now has the worst failings and the advantages of neither.  Either of the above options would certainly have their problems as well.

[JeffreyS]

Rights within a society are what the society decides they are.

Just when  I thought we were done with this socialist drivel it strikes again. Health care is not a right. Nothing that someone else must be compelled to provide you is a 'right'.

So if society decides healthcare is aright it is.  Our society has not decided that yet so it isn't.  We can compel people to fight for our common defense and we consider that a right.

Jax trader we live in a mixed market not true capitalist not true socialists but aspects of both are already here.  Socialist drivel is as American as Capitalist drivel.

[FayeforCure]

Rights within a society are what the society decides they are.

So if society decides healthcare is aright it is.  Our society has not decided that yet so it isn't.

We can compel people to fight for our common defense and we consider that a right.

Ahhh healthcare security, what a concept...........pooling our resources to protect us from shared risks:

July 6, 2009
Letter
Health Care: A Citizen’s View
To the Editor:

Re “Insured but Unprotected, and Driven Bankrupt by Health Crises” (front page, July 1):

One of the largely overlooked benefits derived from a universal comprehensive national program is the great freedom from anxiety it provides when it comes to obtaining needed medical care.

My wife and I spend a month or more each year in a village in Spain and have seen how a universal health care program works. One can lose one’s job or home and live on little or no income yet still be confident of obtaining the same excellent care as anyone else.

It is in sharp contrast to the many accounts of people in the United States who have to decide between seeing a doctor or paying for food or rent or even risking bankruptcy.

When it comes to health care, people in Spain sleep better.

Nathan T. Melamed
Pittsburgh, July 1, 2009

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/opinion/lweb06health.html?ref=opinion

[FayeforCure]

I don't get why everyone is so freaked out about government running healthcare. They just outsource it to privacy companies anyway, just like Medicare. You think the government runs the day to day administration of Medicare - provider enrollment, claims, etc? Nope, its 13 companies (mostly BCBS subsidiaries) across the country. The one for Florida, the US Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico (Jurisdiction 9) is based here in Jacksonville.  Sure the government comes up with the rules, but the private companies carry out the majority of the work. Would a public healthcare plan really operate that much differently? I doubt it.

Shocking.......you're telling us that all along the corporate industry has been milking the tax payers? Absolutely shocking.

But now you are bursting their bubble that corporations are independent from government.

Corporations will make out like thieves if the universal healthcare system mandates "private for-profit" insurance and blocks any truly "public healthcare" insurance. See my signature.