Jacksonville's next Downtown skyscraper

Started by fsu813, June 08, 2009, 10:02:04 AM

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Quote from: Charles Hunter on June 08, 2009, 05:16:47 PM
Your definition of "downtown" is too limiting - the City considers the Southbank part of downtown.

And the eastern most section of Brooklyn bordering the River going south into Riverside.

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Quote from: reednavy on June 08, 2009, 05:59:28 PM
The new WOlfson's Tower will be our next tower to go up.

Anyone know how high/tall that will be?  In my opinion anything over 200 feet is a skyscraper; basically any building under 200 feet doesn't even look tall or look the part, and really looks like a squashed tall.

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Quote from: Seraphs on June 08, 2009, 06:35:07 PM
What reasons would someone have for not considering the southbank part of downtown?  Because a river runs through it? (separating north from south)

Well think about it; if the river had never been there, and Jacksonville was still the City it is, that would be downtown...i.e., there would probably be buildings where the river runs through downtown, and the urban/downtown sprawl probably would have spilled over into that section anyway.

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Quote from: Seraphs on June 08, 2009, 06:37:06 PM
Hopefully the next skyscraper is the St. Johns.

Or the Vue, that one will be tall as well.

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Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on June 08, 2009, 10:00:06 PM
Lets have this conversation when something over 50 stories is built not just planned. I dont consider any of the condos in Jax as skyscrapers. My opinion!

Why not?  A skyscraper is a tall building, not just tall office building, but any type of building; I don't think there is any height cut off limit in the definition of a skyscraper.  Here is the definition of "skyscraper:"

sky·scrap·er  (skī'skrā'pər)   
n.  A very tall building.

So that sums it all up.

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Skyscrapercities.com categorizes highrise buildings as over 200ft, Skyscrapers as over 650ft, and Supertalls as being over 1000ft. I think under these terms our disscusion should be Jacksonville's next highrise.
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stjr

Jacksonville's "next skyscraper" should have been a 30+ story County Courthouse.   Less city blocks, likely less expensive, and a great addition to the skyline.  But, no, the judges designed it and, being math challenged, didn't want any floor numbers in "double digits"!  :D
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

jeh1980

Quote from: stjr on June 09, 2009, 08:50:59 AM
Jacksonville's "next skyscraper" should have been a 30+ story County Courthouse.   Less city blocks, likely less expensive, and a great addition to the skyline.  But, no, the judges designed it and, being math challenged, didn't want any floor numbers in "double digits"!  :D
Well, not really.

KennyLovesJAX

Well in my opinion, jacksonville should building another 600 footer maybe 3 blocks west of the bank of america tower. Also a 700 footer would be nice on the south bank.

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Quote from: JeffreyS on June 09, 2009, 07:17:10 AM
Skyscrapercities.com categorizes highrise buildings as over 200ft, Skyscrapers as over 650ft, and Supertalls as being over 1000ft. I think under these terms our disscusion should be Jacksonville's next highrise.

That's their categorization and their opinion of what skyscraper is or should be; remember, a skscraper is just a "tall building."  A tall building can be 200 feet or even 150 feet; they're certainly taller than a tree.

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Keith n Jax, have you ever been in the southbank towers?  I don't know about anyone else, but 38 floors qualifies as a skyscaper to me.  The balcony at the top of the Peninsula is deadly scary.  I will agree that San Marco Place and, possibly the Strand, fall short of skyscraper, but definitely not the Peninsula.

I think the St Johns or Baptist will be next.  No chance for the Vu

JaxNative68

What would the new Everbank Plaza on Riverside Avenue be considered according to MetroJax users?

reednavy

Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

Jason

Here are a few old images I threw together showing what a couple new towers could do to the downtown skyline.  Throw in some good street interaction and the CBD will easily become very dense and very walkable.

Here is the first image showing a completed Riverwatch Tower (grey bldg) and a new "tallest" that tops 700'.










Next we throw in a few more towers in and around the Times Union Center and CSX building and we instantly have a central buisness district that would rival or beat cities that have recently moved ahead in terms of development and walkability.














JeffreyS

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Highrise                             200                   75(6 floors)   
Skyscraper                          650                   492                      12 story
Supertall                           1000                   984   
   

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Any very tall building that towers above the rest of the sky line.  Originally a nautical term for tall sails.

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