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Started by BridgeTroll, May 20, 2009, 07:53:53 AM

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Shwaz

#15
May 20, 2009, 02:34:12 PM
QuoteShwaz,

Since I'm 99% sure I know who you work for, would your opinion change if you knew that one of your co-workers(my sister remember) can't afford the $600 a month coverage that your company offers but because our mother and I have migraines SHE can't get independent coverage.

Your sister doesn't make up the 18% of uninsured American's.

QuoteEither through taxes or premiums you're going to have to pay, wouldn't it be nice if everyone got a seat at the table?

Not everyone wants a seat at the table.
And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

Sigma

#16
May 20, 2009, 02:35:19 PM
CrysG,

I for one can empathize with you and agree that the system is broken, so please don't assume that because we disagree that some of us think everything is ok with the current state of affairs.

What I'm saying is that the current laws and regulations are preventing our system from operation efficiently and at lower costs.  These are government created laws and regulations that will cost very little to modify in order to affect free market change and improvements.  
"The learned Fool writes his Nonsense in better Language than the unlearned; but still 'tis Nonsense."  --Ben Franklin 1754

CrysG

#17
May 20, 2009, 02:42:50 PM
Your sister doesn't make up the 18% of uninsured American's.

If she doesn't have insurance I believe that would make her uninsured.


Not everyone wants a seat at the table.

Yeah just like I don't have any children but I pay taxes so the people who do can send their kids to school. I've never had to call the fire department or JSO but I pay taxes for those who do need those services can.

Shwaz

#18
May 20, 2009, 02:47:25 PM
QuoteIf she doesn't have insurance I believe that would make her uninsured.

Not all 18%... your giving an example for 1 of the 46,000,000 that are uninsured - or do you believe they all share the same story?

QuoteYeah just like I don't have any children but I pay taxes so the people who do can send their kids to school. I've never had to call the fire department or JSO but I pay taxes for those who do need those services can.

No as in they're not worried about health coverage or want to keep more money in their pocket. How many young people out there opt out of health coverage but spend $100's in the bar's & entertainment category.
Hell how many young people let their car insurance lapse because they'd rather spend it on fun?

And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

CrysG

#19
May 20, 2009, 02:50:39 PM
or do you believe they all share the same story?

No because according to you the rest don't get insurance so they can party.

Shwaz

#20
May 20, 2009, 02:52:21 PM
QuoteNo because according to you the rest don't get insurance so they can party.

Don't forget the "hold on to more of their paycheck" part.
And though I long to embrace, I will not replace my priorities: humour, opinion, a sense of compassion, creativity and a distaste for fashion.

CrysG

#21
May 20, 2009, 03:00:36 PM
Yeah, but don't worry Shwaz you're going to be paying for them to go to the hospital if their need ever arises either way.

Sigma

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May 20, 2009, 03:05:37 PM Last Edit: May 20, 2009, 05:32:17 PM by Sigma
Quote from: CrysG on May 20, 2009, 02:42:50 PM
Yeah just like I don't have any children but I pay taxes so the people who do can send their kids to school. I've never had to call the fire department or JSO but I pay taxes for those who do need those services can.

Good example CrysG - since our public schools are such a stellar example of government run (efficient, low-cost, caring) program and are falling far behind in global competitiveness, let's do the same thing to our healthcare?  

If government really wants us to have an opt-out private system along with a medicare style government program, then why does that same government vehemently oppose school vouchers?  

You can have your unicare and your public schools, but YOU PAY FOR IT.  I would like a TRUE opt-out policy.  Therefore I would like to opt out of my taxes paying for other peoples' kids and other peoples' healthcare.  Please lower my taxes accordingly.

When I decide to have children (aka being in a financially strong position in life to afford for their needs) I will choose a school of my choice and pay for it myself).

Is that ok for you CrysG and Faye?  Your unicare system - you figure out how to pay for it when a true 'opt-out' policy exists.
"The learned Fool writes his Nonsense in better Language than the unlearned; but still 'tis Nonsense."  --Ben Franklin 1754

CrysG

#23
May 20, 2009, 03:14:48 PM
Yes, our school systems are that bad, I mean how dare we teach our children at the same level as England, Germany and Russia and allow them to gained on some of its toughest competitors since 1995, making bigger strides in math than Singapore and Japan, and in science than Japan.  ::)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090518/ap_on_re_us/us_education_trash_talk;_ylt=AntOrdB_hX8.OzzVlgbQ5rADW7oF

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