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Started by BridgeTroll, December 01, 2008, 07:49:49 AM


civil42806

Quote from: BridgeTroll on December 02, 2008, 03:57:52 PM
For you conspiracy folks...

http://www.daily.pk/world/asia/8385-the-international-backers-of-the-mumbai-attacks.html

The International Backers of the Mumbai Attacks       
Written by www.daily.pk     
Saturday, 29 November 2008 19:09 
Reuters states that at least 80 people have been killed and that, "An organisation calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed it was behind attacks". CNN television is already stating as fact that the Mumbai attacks were funded and supported by foreign sources, implicating Pakistan where President-elect Obama promised to take the so-called "war on terrorism" when he assumes office in January. The attacks which are on-going at this moment set the stage for redeployment of U.S. troops from Iraq to Pakistan as Obama promised. George W. Bush has been quick to condemn the attacks and CNN is giving round-the-clock coverage, reminiscent of corporate media coverage of the 9/11 attacks in the United States.

Linking Pakistan, Al-Queda, Muslims and Terrorism

CNN, Reuters and other corporate media immediately called these attacks with bombs, automatic weapons and hand grenades "terrorist attacks" emanating from Pakistan with roots in "Al Queda" and "Islamist Terrorists". CNN TV also states that these attacks target "western business people and well-heeled western tourists", staying at Mumbai's luxury hotels. The Deccan Herald states that the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility via a convenient e-mail message received by the Deccan Herald (DC). DC states,

"The term itself (Deccan Mujahideen) is not very specific, and according to CNN may just be a generic term for radicals in the region. 'Deccan' is an area of India and 'Mujahideen' is the plural form of a term referring to a Muslim participating in a jihad."

Associated Press described the attackers,

"Teams of heavily armed gunmen stormed luxury hotels, a popular restaurant and a crowded train station in coordinated attacks across India's financial capital Wednesday night, killing at least 78 people and taking Westerners hostage, police said. A group of suspected Muslim militants claimed responsibility."

Reuters describes them, "The previously unknown or little known group sent an email to news organisations claiming responsibility." This is a familiar attribution to "terrorist attacks" which, because the organisation is "unknown", noone can prove otherwise. CNN TV states emphatically, "This is definitely an international attack using domestic terrorists". We have no doubt that the latter statement is true but the question is, "Who are those international backers of these attacks?"

International backing and support

Modern criminal investigation still rests on the Aristotile's 3 equally important causal factors: Means, Method and Motivation.

Factor analysis - Means, Method and Motivation: Powerful western media organisations reinforce their opinions with repetition, linking assaults like these with former "Islamist attacks" and another "terrorist attack". Their logic and factor analysis use (1) the weapons used, (2) the similarity of past attacks by "Al Queda" and (3) motivation. But of course they never consider the possibility, based on this same factor analysis, that the architects may be the CIA and/or Mossad.

Means: That the most powerful military machine in the world has the means to arm groups like the one who is carrying out the Mumbai attacks requires no apology or defense.

Method: History is replete with examples of U.S./Israeli use of a surrogate to attack their enemies. William John Fox pointed this out in his exemplary analysis, Deliver Us From Chaos: Ten Political Commandments. In 1953 they used domestic terrorism to overthrow Mohammad Mosaddeq, former Prime Minister of Iran. They used the Afghan Mujahideen to attack Russia in the same year of their resistance. The CIA and the U.S. ambassador secretly engineered the “Rose Revolution” in Georgia in 2003 and "the U.S. encouraged the Israeli-trained Georgian army to invade the disputed enclave of South Ossetia five years later".

Motivation: The only difference between the factors used by the capitalist media and ours is motivation. Regarding motivation, CNN states "they (Deccan Mujahideen) want to create as much damage and attention to themselves as possible". CIA/Mossad are masters at destruction, but the last thing they want is bringing attention to themselves. Motivation for the U.S. to take it's war to Pakistan fits perfectly with these attacks. As a matter of fact, Barack Obama and Joe Biden already declared their intention to take the war to Pakistan and stated with certainty that Obama's "mettle would be tested" by a major international "incident" in the near future. If the perpetrators want to draw attention to themselves, their method (i.e. killing civilians), simply does not make sense unless one buys the Bush regime's religion-based simplism that they are simply "evil". Militant's fighting for causes such as independence or national sovereignty want least of all, international negative attention or popular hatred. The only thing missing from the corporate media explanation is George W. Bush's idiotic claim that "the terrorists are jealous of our freedoms". Using this the corporate media's methodology, it is entirely reasonable and just as easy to implicate the CIA and Mossad.

Terrorism

We must also remember where the very term, "terrorism" was born in 1947 and who carried it out? - Israel. The term has been internationalised and popularised since then by the corporate media, rarely if ever pointing to its origins. Today, "terrorism" has become a household term, associated solely with Muslims throughout the world and it was developed into a basis for a war without end. The military assault on Mumbai is another a mini-9/11 in the sense that it provides a platform for juicing and expanding the "anti-terror" war under a new Obama administration which will no doubt be backed by other western governments.

Criminal Investigation

CNN tells us that the FBI has offered to help investigate the crime. The question is whether their interest is real investigation or damage control. If the FBI uses this time worn formula it could very easily end up evidence pointing to their own government. Were the FBI to "discover" CIA or Mossad involvement can any sane person expect they would reveal their findings to the public? Using "means, method and motivation" analysis, our "criminal investigation" leads to the CIA and Mossad as perpetrators of this event. L Blough


Wow Bridge, I finally plowed my way through that and all I have to say is "that way lays madness".  Utilizing the criteria layed out everything is a conspiracy.  I have always been amazed by the people that assume almost a hyper efficient government that can arrange this type of thing.  When in actuallity the government can't chew gum and walk at the same time.  I was living in pascagoula about a year ago, setting in a bar and the TV had a 9/11 special on.  I was watching it and this guy starts talking to me, annoyed the hell out of me, distracted me from my drinking, anyway he started telling me about how in fact a globalhawk crashed into the pentagon and not an american airlines jet.  It was about 2 minutes into his story that I realized he was insane.    I let him go on for a bit, then dropped my bomb, really I said, I actually have worked and am presently working on the globalhawk program, (and was no lie).  So I asked him about the people that testified they saw an American airlines jet crash into the pentagon, pointed out the the GH is BLACK,AA was a bright shiny aluminum with red paind,  the GH has one engine over the fuselage, 767 has two under the wing,  The gh has a straight skinny wing with no hard points, the 767 has a swept wing.  The GH has a split tail, the AA has a single vertical.  His response then was "well they made it look like an AA plane"  at that point I decided to drink at home.

Bostech

Quote from: RiversideGator on December 02, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
Bos:  Is there any conspiracy theory you do not fall for?

It's not conspiracy anymore,it's reality.
We can find water on Mars but can not find 6-5 Osama in Pakistan.
Legalize Marijuana,I need something to calm me down after I watch Fox News.

If Jesus was alive today,Republicans would call him gay and Democrats would put him on food stamps.

BridgeTroll

QuoteIt's not conspiracy anymore,it's reality.

See what I mean? :D

QuoteWe can find water on Mars but can not find 6-5 Osama in Pakistan.

Now THAT is a great analogy... :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

civil42806

Well some indication are that the Mumbai Terrorist were from Pakistan

http://story.irishsun.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/2411cd3571b4f088/id/439300/cs/1/

But you never know those sneaky Hindu Zionists may have behind it and you can never rule out the JEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWS.

right Bostech