The Jaguars: Now What?

Started by copperfiend, November 24, 2008, 10:14:09 AM

Keith-N-Jax

Well let's hope that Harvey/Grooves develope into a nightmare for the opposing offense. Also the Jags have shown with no running game they cant win. They cant erase decifits greater than 10 points because there is no passing game. More of a balance offense is needed I think. Nothing wrong being a run first team, but you cant fall behind and try to develop a passing game on Sunday.

That was a really bad showing Sunday, really bad.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: copperfiend on November 24, 2008, 02:48:33 PM
I think the Jaguars thought they were one player away when they got Harvey. They were wrong.

If they thought that whether or not it was Harvey they were wrong.  Even if Harvey IS the guy you are one helmet to the knee away from being right where you were.

More young players with a high turnover rate.  Very few players should remain on a team more than 6 years or so...

Look at the youngest teams last year...

Green Bay*  25.72
Indianapolis*  25.74
Cincinnati  26.08
Dallas*  26.08
Carolina  26.17
Arizona  26.21
San Diego*  26.23
N.Y. Giants*  26.26
Minnesota  26.28
Buffalo  26.33

Most went to the playoffs or were in contention or are this year.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Coolyfett

Quote from: copperfiend on November 24, 2008, 10:14:09 AM
And has anybody looked at next year's home schedule? It's not pretty when it comes to ticket sales. Arizona, St. Louis, Buffalo. There will be blackouts next year. It could get ugly.

The Jags schedule is not set til the end of the season copper...
here is what we got so far....yea it does look a lil ugly.

Colts - Division Home
Colts - Division Away
Texans - Division Home
Texans - Division Away
Titans - Division Home
Titans - Division Away
Seattle - NFC rotation Away
Arizona - NFC rotation Home
St Louis - NFC rotation Home
San Francisco - NFC rotation Away
Miami - AFC rotation Home
New England - AFC rotation Away
New York J - AFC rotation Away
Buffalo - AFC rotation Home
3rd or 4th Place AFC Home
3rd or 4th Place AFC Away

^^^^ thats our schedule for next year, but we will not know the final two teams until the 2008 season is finished. Most likely the Raiders (home) & Browns (away)

The biggest home game in my book is Miami




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Keith-N-Jax

May get the Steelers again is that possible?  On a good note I dont think those team listed will have a tremendous fan base following them. Thats good in one way,because I am so tired of opposing fans celebrathing in our stadium(in good numbers) and before anyone says our fans need to support the team, yes they do. Looks like a easy schedule, but we know that doesnt exist when dealing with the Jaguars.

Coolyfett

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on November 24, 2008, 05:55:34 PM
May get the Steelers again is that possible?  On a good note I dont think those team listed will have a tremendous fan base following them. Thats good in one way,because I am so tired of opposing fans celebrathing in our stadium(in good numbers) and before anyone says our fans need to support the team, yes they do. Looks like a easy schedule, but we know that doesnt exist when dealing with the Jaguars.

Only way to get the Steelers in 2009 is to have a 1st Place AFC schedule, Jag will have a 3rd or 4th place schedule. We don't play the AFC North til 2011

Knowing the future schedule is knowing the rotations

2008 AFC North
2009 AFC East
2010 AFC West
2011 AFC North

the pattern continues from there. Same thing for the NFC Divisions except its a 4 year rotation. Jaguars play the Falcons, 49ers, Cowboys, Packers etc every 4 years.

2 of the games go to the place you finish in. So if you finish first you play all the 1st place teams in your conference. Example the 4-5 years that Colts & Patriots always played each other in the regular season. They would always win their divisions. So in 2009 Jets, Steelers, Titans & "guessing" Broncos will all play each other because they are the division winners.

Hope that helps.
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Keith-N-Jax

It does thanks. Bottom line though they need to win more than lose no matter the opponet. I hope that's the case for the 09 season.

MattnJax

 Fire Shack. Bring back Jack. Fire the OC and the DC. Fire the scouts. Bring in a good GM that can bring a good scout team with him. Draft an OL with the 1st round pick. Pretty much rebuild the lines on both sides of the ball. Try and find a good vetern LB, and hope that Harvey and Groves can make a huge leap next season.

I think our Offense is good, minus the Offensive line, which I feel is the main reason we have struggled so much this year. They can't run block and they can't pass protect.

As far as the Defense. Where to begin? lol ...  We have no pass rush. We can't stop the run, and teams throw all over our secondary. You would think they would be the best playing side of the ball cause that's Jack's specialty, but they're not, and that's scary.

It's going to be an interesting offseason for sure.


Keith-N-Jax

I wouldnt say offense is good. Our running game is good with a good 0-line, but the passing game or lack of. We need another Jimmy Smith and dont say Matt Jones. Porter well, we will see next yr if he's just here for the check. No opponet is worried about the Jags going deep, so they stack box and dare DG to beat them, so far its work, for the opponet that is.

MattnJax

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on November 24, 2008, 09:15:41 PM
I wouldnt say offense is good. Our running game is good with a good 0-line, but the passing game or lack of. We need another Jimmy Smith and dont say Matt Jones. Porter well, we will see next yr if he's just here for the check. No opponet is worried about the Jags going deep, so they stack box and dare DG to beat them, so far its work, for the opponet that is.

Notice I didn't say great. lol ... I think they are good. They showed last season what they can do if they have a good OL. Fact is is we can't run the ball, and can't pass because Garrard has to scramble for his life everytime he takes a snap. And I would never call Matt Jones Jimmy Smith, but I think he's a threat for the Jags, and seems to be on the same page with Garrard, which is a plus. Porter is a disappointment, as is Marcedes (again).

deathstar

Wipe out the entire Jaguars roster, coaches, owners, etc.. bring in a multi-trillion dollar mogul who could buy Jet Favre from the New York Brett's, Randy Moss, and Reggie Bush. Then just draft players from Florida and Oklahoma to fill the rest of the positions. You won't have to worry about the coaching staff, Jag Favre would take care of it all.

Hey, you asked.

Keith-N-Jax

We asked, but I think everyone was expecting serious replies.  :) In order to get those players they first have to be available.

deathstar

Jag Favre would lead the Jaguars to 10 super bowl wins in a row, no doubt.

copperfiend

Quote from: MattnJax on November 24, 2008, 09:09:03 PM
Fire Shack. Bring back Jack. Fire the OC and the DC. Fire the scouts. Bring in a good GM that can bring a good scout team with him. Draft an OL with the 1st round pick. Pretty much rebuild the lines on both sides of the ball. Try and find a good vetern LB, and hope that Harvey and Groves can make a huge leap next season.


I actually think you keep the OC. He did a great job last year. He just needs players.

MattnJax

Quote from: copperfiend on November 25, 2008, 07:31:02 AM
Quote from: MattnJax on November 24, 2008, 09:09:03 PM
Fire Shack. Bring back Jack. Fire the OC and the DC. Fire the scouts. Bring in a good GM that can bring a good scout team with him. Draft an OL with the 1st round pick. Pretty much rebuild the lines on both sides of the ball. Try and find a good vetern LB, and hope that Harvey and Groves can make a huge leap next season.


I actually think you keep the OC. He did a great job last year. He just needs players.


Yeah it is a tough call, but I just look at his play calling this year and it's horrible.

copperfiend

Part of me blames Del Rio there. He plays it very close to the vest. When Koetter was in college, his teams threw it all over the field,