Brian Kilmeade vs Carlucci and Davis

[WarDamJagFan]

That guy can go to hell. We don't need some outside morning show clown telling us things we already know like it's some kind of sage wisdom. FOH.

Why not? He owns a home in the area. Is he not allowed to voice his opinion? Nothing he said was wrong and I appreciate that he took a shot at what the reality is of our downtown and our piss poor leadership.

Because FOX.  So shoot the messenger.

[BridgeTroll]

Now I know what FOH means...

[Snaketoz]

The ironic part of Kilmeade's statement is that his normal audience are the ones most responsible for the conditions our city/downtown are in.  I can't think of any statement made by a talking head on Faux News that was more truthful.

[WarDamJagFan]

The ironic part of Kilmeade's statement is that his normal audience are the ones most responsible for the conditions our city/downtown are in.  I can't think of any statement made by a talking head on Faux News that was more truthful.

So on that topic, I do have a question. Full disclosure, I'm a conservative. Probably no shock to some but it's been a while since I've posted on here. I have no desire to vote for Davis who will most likely, and unfortunately, be on the R ticket for Mayor. What does Donna Deegan bring that would be different than when Alvin Brown was mayor? Not a rhetorical question

[JPalmer]

Candidates for local elections should not be using national political party affiliations. 

Local elections would be much better if candidates didn't run under the banners of Dems or Reps.

[vicupstate]

Candidates for local elections should not be using national political party affiliations. 

Local elections would be much better if candidates didn't run under the banners of Dems or Reps.

I've been preaching this for years. JAX has some of the most politically partisan elections and politics of any city I have knowledge of. A citizen sponsor charter initiative could force the change too, which is something very few cities can say.

[jaxoNOLE]

The ironic part of Kilmeade's statement is that his normal audience are the ones most responsible for the conditions our city/downtown are in.  I can't think of any statement made by a talking head on Faux News that was more truthful.

So on that topic, I do have a question. Full disclosure, I'm a conservative. Probably no shock to some but it's been a while since I've posted on here. I have no desire to vote for Davis who will most likely, and unfortunately, be on the R ticket for Mayor. What does Donna Deegan bring that would be different than when Alvin Brown was mayor? Not a rhetorical question

I have the same question. I was disappointed to see Carlucci drop out. The remaining R candidates are a hard no for me, for various reasons. But I know very little about Deegan's platform and would likewise appreciate that insight.

Candidates for local elections should not be using national political party affiliations. 

Local elections would be much better if candidates didn't run under the banners of Dems or Reps.

I've been preaching this for years. JAX has some of the most politically partisan elections and politics of any city I have knowledge of. A citizen sponsor charter initiative could force the change too, which is something very few cities can say.

Agreed. We debated the practical effects of this change in another thread a little while back. Part of the reason Kilmeade's comments are noteworthy is because we're so partisan that "friendly fire" carries more weight than years of evidence-based arguments put forward by political opponents. I'm very conservative in national politics and get more centrist as government gets more local. Being pro-transit and pro-downtown wouldn't endear me to the local GOP chapter, and I don't care what my city CM's position on 2A rights is. It's not their job. Unfortunately, passing the party litmus test is a prerequisite to a party endorsement at any level. This is where getting put on national blast by a revered member of the right like Kilmeade is potentially useful to us.

[Tacachale]

That guy can go to hell. We don't need some outside morning show clown telling us things we already know like it's some kind of sage wisdom. FOH.

Why not? He owns a home in the area. Is he not allowed to voice his opinion? Nothing he said was wrong and I appreciate that he took a shot at what the reality is of our downtown and our piss poor leadership.

Because FOX.  So shoot the messenger.

I've said and written plenty of things critical of Jacksonville government and the state of Downtown in the past, including this, where we agreed with similar statements by Shad Khan, with important caveats: https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/what-shad-khan-gets-right-and-wrong-about-downtown/

The issue with Kilmeade is that it was just a cheap shot with no substance. People who know what they're talking about, and also me, have been putting out well reasoned critiques for years. This ain't that.

You can tell by the fact that LeAnna Cumber is out here agreeing with him, with no sense of irony, despite the fact that she's literally part of the government he's blasting. Her big ideas to rebuild Downtown include bulldozing historic buildings, the $233 million Lot J boondoggle and ripping out the Skyway - exactly the kind of things that got us to the state we're in. It's just complaining with no substance.

Or maybe it's more this:

[icarus]

We're spending $400m on clown cars .... can we really rebut his argument?

[vicupstate]

I can' help but think that this situation is akin to this phrase..

I can talk about my mama, but YOU can't talk about my mama.