DeSantis Signs 94 Laws, Vetoes 4 Others

[jaxlongtimer]

^ Hey, I will throw you a few bones:

While I have far more issues than not with DeSantis over education policies, anytime someone is willing to get more money for our teachers, I am happy.

I also am happy he vetoed the net metering plan promoted by FPL and the dollars he is spending on the Everglades.

Unfortunately, liking a handful out of hundreds of actions isn't a sufficient batting ratio to get me on his side  .  And, it isn't that I don't just like his actions, it is that so many are extreme, harmful, baiting and/or unnecessarily divisive.  Basically, pouring gasoline on a fire.

[BridgeTroll]

^ Hey, I will throw you a few bones:

While I have far more issues than not with DeSantis over education policies, anytime someone is willing to get more money for out teachers, I am happy.

I also am happy he vetoed the net metering plan promoted by FPL and the dollars he is spending on the Everglades.

Unfortunately, liking a handful out of hundreds of actions isn't a sufficient batting ratio to get me on his side  .  And, it isn't that I don't just like his actions, it is that so many are extreme, harmful, baiting and/or unnecessarily divisive.  Basically, pouring gasoline on a fire.

I hear ya... and agree with some of your complaints. My primary issue with you and a few others are the over the top comparisons to Putin or Hitler, or other some such extreme rhetoric. It's unnecessary and frankly grossly incorrect. For all of his faults or disagreement with he is hardly a nazi or even a authoritarian autocrat. He is a right of center duly elected republican governor.  I voted for him but wouldn't again. Some day perhaps the democrats or an independent will put up a decent candidate for me...

[Snaketoz]

I'd wager there are at least 1,000,000 carpet baggers voting illegally in Florida. Some are Democrats, but a big majority are Republicans.  Like my mother in law. She has a house in Boca but lives in Illinois. She spends about 4 months a year here and files taxes and votes here. She's a Republican who lost interest in voting in Democratic Illinois.  So she moved her legal life here but keeps her social life up there. I've worked in Naples, a So FLA Republican stronghold, long enough to know 70% of it's residents are in fact NOT residents. They are rich, old and white. They have been the ones putting people like Rick Scott and DeSantis into office. They come from Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois and Indiana .......  They show up at Thanksgiving and leave at Easter. Now that we have an election police I wonder if they'll start requiring these carpet baggers to actually satisfy the residency requirement? Probably not, many people don't care.  But it's never been easier to prove. Just ask for their Cell phone records.  Until Democrats start recruiting out of state Demo's to move here in much larger numbers (AND VOTE), we're at the mercy of these folks.

I couldn't have said it better myself.  My wife and I belong to a country club in Nassau County.  99% of the residents/members are from Northern states.  They all say they moved here because the taxes are low and are tired of "liberal politics" where they came from.  These people enjoyed the benefits of higher pay, better educational systems, lower crime, healthcare, and quality of life.  Now they are voting strictly for right wing politicians here. DeSantis is working hard to turn us into places like Kentucky or Mississippi, with the help of those who never had to endure those states' miserable conditions.

[BridgeTroll]

Lol... NEWSFLASH... retirees are moving to Florida.  You left off lower cost of living, warm climate and golf year round...lol

[MusicMan]

Lower cost of living?  That's 100% debatable. Our insurance rates (cars, homes, etc..) and RE taxes offset a lot of the supposed savings from a "no tax" state, unless of course your an NFL player.

Warm climate. Yes, but the snowbirds aren't here to enjoy the 100 consecutive days in the 90's we endure each summer.

Golf? Have you been to a golf course lately?  Be honest, it's a rich white mans sport.  Plumbers and pipefitters, mechanics and brick layers, lawn maintenance people, work for a living. They don't golf. They might boat. But the vast majority, they don't golf.

Naples and similar GOP safe cities are ghost towns in the summer, except for the browned skinned folk (and middle class others) who stay behind to take care of their yards.

[Snaketoz]

According to U.S. News and World Report: Florida is ranked 25th in cost of living and 41st in housing affordability.  Overall- 31st.

[BridgeTroll]

Well... there you go then.  They come to Florida to vote.  Silly me. 

[BridgeTroll]

Seven of ten... Florida...
https://realestate.usnews.com/places/rankings/best-places-to-retire

Most popular state...
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/retirement/020117/most-popular-states-retire-us.asp

Number two on this list...
https://www.bankrate.com/retirement/best-and-worst-states-for-retirement/

Number one again...
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/29/the-10-best-states-in-the-us-to-spend-your-retirement-in-2022.html

Oddly... not one of these sites lists voting as a reason to retire to Florida. Clearly they need to consult with MM and snaketoz to get real... 

[Snaketoz]

They will have to pay my consultation fee.

[BridgeTroll]

They will have to pay my consultation fee.

Only fair... 

[MusicMan]

From a travel blog for Naples-Marci Island:

The busiest time of the year on Marco Island
May 30, 2018 | Paddle Marco

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The busy months
The busy season on Marco Island and Naples, Florida.
If you have ever planned a vacation to southwest Florida, you probably planned it when you and your family had some time off.  Most american families get Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter off.  Those just happen to be the 3 busiest holidays and weeks of the year on Marco Island and Naples, Florida.

Eco-tour operators, hotels, restaurants and local businesses all rely on "Season" which typically runs from Thanksgiving through Easter on Marco Island and peaks during the middle of March.  The population of Marco Island is around 15,000 full-time residents and that will almost quadruple to 55,000 people during March and April.  ...but why?  There are 2 big reasons:

1) Spring Break:
Every elementary and high school up north have a different week that they have spring break vacation on.  So eco-tour operators, restaurants, shops and businesses will be extremely busy for at least 6 weeks from the beginning of March through the middle of April.  Easter also plays an important role as it's on a different date every year, so that can also shorten up or lengthen the tail-end of busy season in April.  Usually around April 23rd, all the spring breakers have headed north to go back to school and Marco Island returns to normal.

2) Snowbirds:
Usually when the first big snow storm hits up north, retirees or people that have a secondary home on Marco Island and Naples, will stay 4-5 months to here to avoid the harsh winters up north.  November through April temperatures on Marco Island and Naples are very accommodating.  Usually in the 70's with low humidity and very little rain.  You know season has begun when all the transport semi-trucks arrive with all the white Cadillacs on them."


Not a political blog, just the truth. 

[BridgeTroll]

But nothing about voting?  Weird...

[MusicMan]

From "A Few Good Men":


"Is there anything in the operations manual about where the mess hall is?"

"No sir"

"Then how do you find it?"

"Follow the crowd at chow time."

I'm telling you what I have first hand knowledge of. If you don't that's not my problem.

[jaxoNOLE]

Yes, the snowbird voting effect is real and is not new to FL.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1996-12-15-9612140501-story.html?msclkid=b53bdb11cbd511ec88fcc95e5575772e

And yes, even under terroristic reign of the evil Republican DeSantis administration, that known issue is in fact investigated and prosecuted:

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-voting-twice-crackdown-20211217-kzh3264sprefrfrew5xjeiwgtu-story.html

Excerpts from article available without paywall (pardon the source, but it's almost exclusively quotes from the Sentinel article):

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/12/19/florida-voting-officials-investigating-snowbird-voter-fraud-state/?msclkid=41823218cbd611ec8bfc439505d137c8

[Snaketoz]

Yes, the snowbird voting effect is real and is not new to FL.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1996-12-15-9612140501-story.html?msclkid=b53bdb11cbd511ec88fcc95e5575772e

And yes, even under terroristic reign of the evil Republican DeSantis administration, that known issue is in fact investigated and prosecuted:

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-voting-twice-crackdown-20211217-kzh3264sprefrfrew5xjeiwgtu-story.html

Excerpts from article available without paywall (pardon the source, but it's almost exclusively quotes from the Sentinel article):

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/12/19/florida-voting-officials-investigating-snowbird-voter-fraud-state/?msclkid=41823218cbd611ec8bfc439505d137c8

Thanks for the post.  What many of us suspected, but now have in writing.