Going downtown? Increased parking fees shock...

Started by BridgeTroll, May 30, 2021, 07:11:01 AM

BridgeTroll

Quote from: thelakelander on May 31, 2021, 02:09:20 PM
I'm not sure but I do know that we aren't the only ones.  Needless to say, when leases expires there are several employees that lobby to move to the burbs due to the personal savings.

Sounds like a paycheck penalty and a shopping and dining surcharge...
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bl8jaxnative


I'd welcome the city getting out the parking ramp business. 

jaxlongtimer

These comments, from a developer no less, are timely when talking about parking fees and their impact on Downtown.  And, this is from the Southbank where there are less complexities:
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Gatlin relocates headquarters from Southbank to Baymeadows

Principal Frankie Gatlin IV said May 24 the company moved about a month ago. Gatlin has 15 employees at its headquarters.

"The main reason for moving was to create a shorter and quicker commute for all of our employees and they are very grateful so far with most of their commutes cut in half now," Gatlin said.

"For a while now we had wanted an easier, smaller and more low-key building without all of the parking garages and elevators," he said by email.

"We are really enjoying it so far."

He said the majority of Gatlin's employees live in St. Johns County or near the Beaches.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/gatlin-relocates-headquarters-from-southbank-to-baymeadows

Steve

Quote from: jaxlongtimer on June 01, 2021, 03:31:02 PM
These comments, from a developer no less, are timely when talking about parking fees and their impact on Downtown.  And, this is from the Southbank where there are less complexities:
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Gatlin relocates headquarters from Southbank to Baymeadows

Principal Frankie Gatlin IV said May 24 the company moved about a month ago. Gatlin has 15 employees at its headquarters.

"The main reason for moving was to create a shorter and quicker commute for all of our employees and they are very grateful so far with most of their commutes cut in half now," Gatlin said.

"For a while now we had wanted an easier, smaller and more low-key building without all of the parking garages and elevators," he said by email.

"We are really enjoying it so far."

He said the majority of Gatlin's employees live in St. Johns County or near the Beaches.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/gatlin-relocates-headquarters-from-southbank-to-baymeadows

In fairness, they were in the Riverplace Tower on the Southbank. Regardless of the feeling of increasing parking fees, I'm not sure this is evidence either way.

jaxlongtimer

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^  My point is their employees didn't like the hassle of parking garages.  Layering on employees, wherever they are located, an ask to pay ever higher fees for garages adds further resistance.  So, when Northbank garage fees go up, and employees already dislike the garages, we might expect more reactions like this.

By the way, many female employees especially dislike garages as they deem them to be unsafe, especially when it is dark outside.  Given half, maybe more, of office workers today are women, this may be a bigger issue than in the past.

Zac T

Reading the article, this would be the 6th time Gatlin has moved their headquarters since their founding so I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years they end up somewhere else anyway

Steve

Quote from: jaxlongtimer on June 01, 2021, 05:56:09 PM
^  My point is their employees didn't like the hassle of parking garages.  Layering on employees, wherever they are located, an ask to pay ever higher fees for garages adds further resistance.  So, when Northbank garage fees go up, and employees already dislike the garages, we might expect more reactions like this.

By the way, many female employees especially dislike garages as they deem them to be unsafe, especially when it is dark outside.  Given half, maybe more, of office workers today are women, this may be a bigger issue than in the past.

Riverplace has a private garage, so again, not COJ's fault.

In terms of Garages in general, I can see this but in an urban area garages are unavoidable. But, better lighting, security, etc. can mitigate that.

The other thing to point out - Riverplace tower isn't exactly great in terms of walkability. However that's been the case since 1965.

jaxlongtimer

Quote from: Steve on June 03, 2021, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: jaxlongtimer on June 01, 2021, 05:56:09 PM
^  My point is their employees didn't like the hassle of parking garages.  Layering on employees, wherever they are located, an ask to pay ever higher fees for garages adds further resistance.  So, when Northbank garage fees go up, and employees already dislike the garages, we might expect more reactions like this.

By the way, many female employees especially dislike garages as they deem them to be unsafe, especially when it is dark outside.  Given half, maybe more, of office workers today are women, this may be a bigger issue than in the past.

Riverplace has a private garage, so again, not COJ's fault.

In terms of Garages in general, I can see this but in an urban area garages are unavoidable. But, better lighting, security, etc. can mitigate that.

The other thing to point out - Riverplace tower isn't exactly great in terms of walkability. However that's been the case since 1965.

I realize that Riverplace is a private garage.  My original point was that the "value" of private garage parking rises with the costs of City owned facilities as the COJ facilities are usually the market floor for parking.

Interestingly, I have seen the FIS garage under construction in Brooklyn.  It's 8 stories high.  Could take awhile to make it to the top of that one :).  Wonder if they will stagger employee hours as having 1,000+ people leave a garage all at once is no fun.