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Jax and Coronavirus

Started by sanmarcomatt, March 13, 2020, 01:58:24 PM

Charles Hunter

Awaiting published notice from the Mayor, but he just announced he is establishing the CDC guidance against having groups of more than 50 people. Exceptions for medical, pharmacy and food distribution.

Josh

Quote from: Charles Hunter on March 16, 2020, 12:38:38 PM
Awaiting published notice from the Mayor, but he just announced he is establishing the CDC guidance against having groups of more than 50 people. Exceptions for medical, pharmacy and food distribution.

The City backtracked that almost immediately to make it only apply to social-type gatherings like restaurants, bars, etc. I'm sure we'll be shutdown completely in just a few days, but how can these leaders not get their messaging right when giving scripted talks?

Charles Hunter

Is it possible to get the actual Executive Order - or whatever it is?  I've read the twitter conversation about it, and it seems the answer keeps changing.  Despite what the Mayor said at his press conference, where only grocery stores and pharmacies were exempt, it only seems to apply to entertainment and religious venues.  Office buildings (like City Hall?) apparently are not included, now.  Seems Curry is taking Messaging Efficiency and Accuracy as an extension course from Trump University.

Kerry

What exactly is it about coronovirus that people are afraid of?
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Charles Hunter

That it is spreading quickly, we have no vaccine or treatment, and it kills at a much higher rate than the seasonal flu - to which it is often, improperly, compared. Also, it can cause pneumonia or other severe respiratory distress, requiring ventilators and ICU stays.  Experts are worried the medical system will be overwhelmed as the number of patients outnumbers the available ventilators and ICU beds.

But, I don't get the run on TP.



Kerry

Quote from: Charles Hunter on March 16, 2020, 07:31:25 PM
That it is spreading quickly, we have no vaccine or treatment, and it kills at a much higher rate than the seasonal flu - to which it is often, improperly, compared. Also, it can cause pneumonia or other severe respiratory distress, requiring ventilators and ICU stays.  Experts are worried the medical system will be overwhelmed as the number of patients outnumbers the available ventilators and ICU beds.

But, I don't get the run on TP.

All that is only true for a very small percentage of people.  The vast majority don't even know they have it or have symptoms that only last a few hours.

You could have already had it and not even know it.
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marcuscnelson

Holy shit, 96 million cases and half a million deaths? In two months?
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marcuscnelson

Quote from: Kerry on March 16, 2020, 10:16:42 PM
Quote from: Charles Hunter on March 16, 2020, 07:31:25 PM
That it is spreading quickly, we have no vaccine or treatment, and it kills at a much higher rate than the seasonal flu - to which it is often, improperly, compared. Also, it can cause pneumonia or other severe respiratory distress, requiring ventilators and ICU stays.  Experts are worried the medical system will be overwhelmed as the number of patients outnumbers the available ventilators and ICU beds.

But, I don't get the run on TP.

All that is only true for a very small percentage of people.  The vast majority don't even know they have it or have symptoms that only last a few hours.

You could have already had it and not even know it.

For fuck's sake Kerry, if this actually wasn't a big deal, don't you think it would be treated as such? Have you not considered that maybe people don't want to watch their parents, or grandparents, or immune-suppressed friends and family die if they don't have to? Do you think Italy and South Korea and Canada and all these other places have all just decided to shut down for the hell of it?

If nothing else, do the math. A "very small percentage" of a very large population is still a lot of people. We don't design hospitals for pandemic capacity. Have some empathy. And self-distance.
So, to the young people fighting in this movement for change, here is my charge: march in the streets, protest, run for school committee or city council or the state legislature. And win. - Ed Markey

MusicMan

If any of you heard, live, Trump's press conference today you know how screwed we are with this clown in charge. Sorry to bring politics to this board, but the entire response (by the Trump administration), every word since January 30, is on video tape (or Twitter). The hubris and ignorance combined are breathless. John Oliver has two "Last Week Tonight" segments devoted to the corona virus and they are quite informative, funny, and sadly, pathetic. Especially Trump advisor Larry Kudlow's comments.....

Adam White

Last I heard, approx 15% of cases require hospitalisation. If, say, 30% of the US population gets the virus, then more than 14.5 million people will need hospitalisation. And that's on top of the normal people requiring medical help (and all the newly sick people going to ER or their doctor because they aren't feeling well - yet don't need to be hospitalised).

So yeah, even if you aren't worried about your health, you should still be concerned about the effects of this virus.
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BridgeTroll

Quote from: Kerry on March 16, 2020, 10:16:42 PM
Quote from: Charles Hunter on March 16, 2020, 07:31:25 PM
That it is spreading quickly, we have no vaccine or treatment, and it kills at a much higher rate than the seasonal flu - to which it is often, improperly, compared. Also, it can cause pneumonia or other severe respiratory distress, requiring ventilators and ICU stays.  Experts are worried the medical system will be overwhelmed as the number of patients outnumbers the available ventilators and ICU beds.

But, I don't get the run on TP.

All that is only true for a very small percentage of people.  The vast majority don't even know they have it or have symptoms that only last a few hours.

You could have already had it and not even know it.
Pretty simply... this is EXACTLY the reason to "social distance " and take prudent measures. Apparently however there seems to be a cadre of people just like you who don't get it...
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Snaketoz

Often, I think Kerry is just pulling our legs.  I hope his comments on Covid-19 are an example.
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