So, Jax May Be The Only City To Demolish Its Landing

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Looks like Baltimore is demolishing harbor place for this near similar idea like ours except they will have a marketplace but same idea of residential on lot but alot more units. Seems they don't value the waterfront for all of it to be parks as that would be a waste of valuable real estate. With it all a park there would be no high rises to add a large amount of density no shops restaurants and other activities can't make money on a park that stretches all of the whole waterfront when there are hardly any high rises near by of residents like ours shipyards you have the berkman and the doro apartments and four seasons but thats it and there far apart from each other and if you do build residential around the stadium still will be less people using it maybe 900 units or 1200 still low you have the Maxwell plant in the way of a big gap between berkman and four seasons no hotels offices residential restaurants and assuming the mosh actually builds their new museum since they're still struggling to raise more money and time moving on the cost to build it is rising faster than they can fund it. You will have a big park with a restaurant and little eatery but thats it in the middle of nothing of some trees and tennis court.  Same with bays street business far away from four seasons there's no connection of other businesses to reach each other. A majority of these residential apartments going in may have a bunch of people who may not use the park. https://www.wbal.com/residents-ask-questions-about-vision-for-new-harborplace/

And same with lavilla with no high density being built there a district that is in the downtown boundary not outside on the other side of the highway would be a low neighborhood like others that would wrap around downtown when we could make it very dense. Having houses little du plexes semi detached houses row hoses and low rise apartments all which you can find all over the city is a waste of valuable density especially having all that next to a transit hub and maybe a train station that will probably in the future connect to the rest of the transit hub and the most busiest highway i95 that is expanding and rearranging a bunch of on and off ramps. A very congested and noisy area for a low rise neighborhood that would be outside of downtown in a much quieter state. Not very dense area when you have houses and low apartment covering a big area when you need a very dense population to utilize transit and being a gateway into downtown. You can find those type of neighborhoods all over the city but you will not find a large amount of high rises throughout. A very big dense skyline in the middle of the entire city of 800 plus square miles.

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Another thing that can be said is it feels like the DT leadership is trying run before walking. Why did we opt to go with a 20+ story tower for the Ford on Bay? Completely unrealistic for quite some time. Meanwhile, some of the other options, still being a reach, are so much more practical. (Minus Southeast but I like the vision lol).

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/news/2022/jan/06/gallery-renderings-of-the-six-projects-proposed-for-the-ford-on-bay/

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Same can be said for the Landing Skyscraper, the RFP was basically like "hey, build a 30 story tower of whatever" which is just odd to request... If we want to be building tall, the coast line is where to go... citizens want density in different areas than the market and vice-versa.

It's because they are idiots who got sucked in by a flashy proposal. We can't get a first down let alone a touchdown and they get wowed by a pie in the sky unrealistic project because skyscrapers >>> everything.

The Mid-America and Vantrust proposals would almost certainly be well underway by now for sure, they weren't fancy but they were solid infill projects that were achieveable in a dead development environment which is DT Jax. They should have seen the warning signs after seeing Atkins and Southeast wanting to get involved with their phony renderings and the mess they've made of the trio when we seen the Hardwick high-rise proposal.