Downtown on the verge of a hotel boom

[Metro Jacksonville]

Downtown on the verge of a hotel boom



16 years have passed since the last hotel opened its doors in Downtown Jacksonville. After years of inaction, the hotel industry is preparing to take the city's downtown core by storm. Here's a brief look at five sites where hotels are already proposed or under serious consideration.

Read More: https://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2018-mar-downtown-on-the-verge-of-a-hotel-boom

[Kerry]

By comparison - 23 hotels have been built in downtown OKC in the last 16 years with 5 more currently under construction and several more in the planning stages.

[jaxnyc79]

Downtown on the verge of a hotel boom



16 years have passed since the last hotel opened its doors in Downtown Jacksonville. After years of inaction, the hotel industry is preparing to take the city's downtown core by storm. Here's a brief look at five sites where hotels are already proposed or under serious consideration.

Read More: https://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2018-mar-downtown-on-the-verge-of-a-hotel-boom

Not really a "boom," more like a spark, perhaps a revival

[thelakelander]

Jax hasn't seen a new hotel in downtown in nearly 20 years. A revival locally is one or two. Over five significant projects of a particular building type qualifies as a boom locally.

[jaxnyc79]

Well, if you want to come up with your own local standards and definitions, then hell, call it a revolution.  But from a national perspective, using the term "boom" to characterize anything underway in downtown Jax is a bit...presumptuous...and sad.  Again, I want Jax to take off, to boom, but let's keep pressing until we really have that.  No time to rest on one's laurels with any premature declarations of success.

[thelakelander]

No one ever said it was a boom on a national perspective (this is even subjective on several cherry picked factors). Probably more appropriate on a Deep South or Florida level but that's getting caught up on silly semantics. Be happy that something is actually happening that pushes DT Jax in the direction you claim you want it go.

[Tacachale]

No one ever said it was a boom on a national perspective. Probably more appropriate on a Deep South or Florida level but that's getting caught up on silly semantics. Be happy that something is actually happening that pushes DT Jax in the direction you claim you want it go.

+1. It's almost as if there's a whole article underneath the headline explaining exactly what we're talking about, and we don't need to get into silly semantical arguments.

[jagsonville]

Jax will never be Miami, New York or even OKC believe it or not. Going from 7 to potentially 12 is a huge increase. You can call it whatever you want but it's huge for our fairly stagnant downtown and hopefully more positive development will follow.

[jaxnyc79]

No one ever said it was a boom on a national perspective. Probably more appropriate on a Deep South or Florida level but that's getting caught up on silly semantics. Be happy that something is actually happening that pushes DT Jax in the direction you claim you want it go.

+1. It's almost as if there's a whole article underneath the headline explaining exactly what we're talking about, and we don't need to get into silly semantical arguments.

Silly is a subjective judgment, and there would be no suggestion of an argument without your escalations.  Your posts are so angry.  I know what the article says.  I enjoy many of Metro's downtown profiles, but on this one, I believe that "boom" is an overstatement, that's it.  Not that I'm not happy downtown Jax is improving or heading in the right direction.

[jaxnyc79]

Jax will never be Miami, New York or even OKC believe it or not. Going from 7 to potentially 12 is a huge increase. You can call it whatever you want but it's huge for our fairly stagnant downtown and hopefully more positive development will follow.

I agree Jax will never be those places, nor should it aim to be anything else but Jax.  In fact, in many other posts, I've downplayed the importance of high-rises in downtown Jax, and instead argued for walkability and density and an urban design that invokes the best of local heritage and plays up Jax's originality.  Again, downtown is moving in a positive direction, I just think boom is an overstatement.  It is on the verge of showing signs of life again, revival, renewal, whatever you want to call it.  It's all good.

[I-10east]

The two obligatory postings; Jax will never be 'fill in the blank' cities, when literally no one suggested that it was. Also the downplaying of any success in the city. There's a place of Jax criticism sometimes, but this posting seem like a very strange place for it. Who cares what another city has, why would anyone want to play a 'keeping up with the Joneses' game, even if those extra hypothetical hotels aren't warranted?

[Tacachale]

No one ever said it was a boom on a national perspective. Probably more appropriate on a Deep South or Florida level but that's getting caught up on silly semantics. Be happy that something is actually happening that pushes DT Jax in the direction you claim you want it go.

+1. It's almost as if there's a whole article underneath the headline explaining exactly what we're talking about, and we don't need to get into silly semantical arguments.

Silly is a subjective judgment, and there would be no suggestion of an argument without your escalations.  Your posts are so angry.  I know what the article says.  I enjoy many of Metro's downtown profiles, but on this one, I believe that "boom" is an overstatement, that's it.  Not that I'm not happy downtown Jax is improving or heading in the right direction.

My posts may be sardonic, but certainly not angry. Again, you might try to be less thin skinned.

[jaxnyc79]

No one ever said it was a boom on a national perspective. Probably more appropriate on a Deep South or Florida level but that's getting caught up on silly semantics. Be happy that something is actually happening that pushes DT Jax in the direction you claim you want it go.

+1. It's almost as if there's a whole article underneath the headline explaining exactly what we're talking about, and we don't need to get into silly semantical arguments.

Silly is a subjective judgment, and there would be no suggestion of an argument without your escalations.  Your posts are so angry.  I know what the article says.  I enjoy many of Metro's downtown profiles, but on this one, I believe that "boom" is an overstatement, that's it.  Not that I'm not happy downtown Jax is improving or heading in the right direction.

My posts may be sardonic, but certainly not angry. Again, you might try to be less thin skinned.

They're definitely angry, but i don't even know you, so I know the anger isn't about me, and I don't have the time or interest to account for what's bugging you outside of this message forum.  At any rate, I simply offered a more nuanced characterization of downtown's hotel pipeline than what was in the article.  There really wasn't a need for a nasty response on your part.

[Tacachale]

No one ever said it was a boom on a national perspective. Probably more appropriate on a Deep South or Florida level but that's getting caught up on silly semantics. Be happy that something is actually happening that pushes DT Jax in the direction you claim you want it go.

+1. It's almost as if there's a whole article underneath the headline explaining exactly what we're talking about, and we don't need to get into silly semantical arguments.

Silly is a subjective judgment, and there would be no suggestion of an argument without your escalations.  Your posts are so angry.  I know what the article says.  I enjoy many of Metro's downtown profiles, but on this one, I believe that "boom" is an overstatement, that's it.  Not that I'm not happy downtown Jax is improving or heading in the right direction.

My posts may be sardonic, but certainly not angry. Again, you might try to be less thin skinned.

They're definitely angry, but i don't eve n know you, so I know the anger isn't about me, and I don't have the time or interest to account for what's bugging you outside of this message forum.  At any rate, I simply offered a more nuanced characterization of downtown's hotel pipeline than what was in the article.  There really wasn't a need for a nasty response on your part.

Yes, that line about silly sematic debates sure was out of line.

[jaxnyc79]

You're forgiven.  Try not to be so hard on yourself