Neanderthal

[BridgeTroll]

National Geographic article on new findings regarding Neanderthal.  Pix are pretty cool.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/10/neanderthals/hall-text

[jacksonvilleconfidential]

Take that First Baptist.

[Doctor_K]

Great article BT, thanks for sharing.  Definitely will be reading it in full on my lunch break!

[BridgeTroll]

Damn people... must this turn political?     I just thought it was an interesting article...

[Ocklawaha]

"We have a couple of bones", THAT MEANS:

"They ate at a McDonalds, we could tell by the unique signature of a big mac on their teeth. We know it was McDonalds, because the children were found several yards away, so they would have gone to the McPlaygound, The larger one was up on the playgound when the cave fell in. The small one was looking for his Nike's, now we KNOW this because the mother died while signing "shoe" in the international sign language. The father was a heavy drinker of Tea because his teeth were stained. He suffered from bad breath because we found garlic in the scat, and so far there is no evidence to suggest he was using Garlique tablets. They were all 5' 5" tall, (at least the 4 we found are) and they all loved Sonnys BBQ...."

"Of course we now are sure they had language like us, and had moden tools (except for those who's hobby was collecting early tools), but they are unique to the population of humans. As different as a football linebacker and a jockey. Maybe as different as Chinese are from Norsmen, or Finlanders from Amazon tribes. We know, we know, we know? More of that Roswell Crap..."

That Bible at first Baptist or First anything else says, "Thinking themselves to be wise they bacame as fools..."
Now THAT is something I can believe!

OCKLAWAHA

[BridgeTroll]

"We have a couple of bones", THAT MEANS:

"They ate at a McDonalds, we could tell by the unique signature of a big mac on their teeth. We know it was McDonalds, because the children were found several yards away, so they would have gone to the McPlaygound, The larger one was up on the playgound when the cave fell in. The small one was looking for his Nike's, now we KNOW this because the mother died while signing "shoe" in the international sign language. The father was a heavy drinker of Tea because his teeth were stained. He suffered from bad breath because we found garlic in the scat, and so far there is no evidence to suggest he was using Garlique tablets. They were all 5' 5" tall, (at least the 4 we found are) and they all loved Sonnys BBQ...."

"Of course we now are sure they had language like us, and had moden tools (except for those who's hobby was collecting early tools), but they are unique to the population of humans. As different as a football linebacker and a jockey. Maybe as different as Chinese are from Norsmen, or Finlanders from Amazon tribes. We know, we know, we know? More of that Roswell Crap..."

That Bible at first Baptist or First anything else says, "Thinking themselves to be wise they bacame as fools..."
Now THAT is something I can believe!

OCKLAWAHA

Or... stick your fingers in your ears and yell...blahblahblahblahblahblahblah

[RiversideGator]

How does this nullify the Bible?   

[Ocklawaha]

Or... stick your fingers in your ears and yell...blahblahblahblahblahblahblah

I'd really rather not, I enjoy the stuff NGS comes up with - even for Darwin himself, this wasn't THE answer only a possible answer in a million possibilities, and he said so. WE are the idiots that made a theory into a "fact". I have no trouble believing some of it, if you met my neighbor you'd be convinced (as I am) that some of us DID evolve from fish... He more of a bottom dweller, certainly not great ape stuff. In fact if you were to say Dave (oops, no names here) came from an ape-like creature, Big Foot would lay down his laptop and come kick your butt!

Theorys are theorys, no more no less.

Compatriot Riverside Gator, I agree with you, I don't see anywhere in The Good Book where God said he did it in step A., B., C., etc... Just says HE DID IT, not how.  The odds of some great cosmic error, are too great, in fact Roswell will get you MUCH better odds.

OCKLAWAHA

[will]

The odds of some great cosmic error, are too great, in fact Roswell will get you MUCH better odds.

The odds are also pretty remote that there would exist an eternal all-powerful being like God. Seems a lot easier to make a few galaxies, governed by a limited set of physical laws, than to create an unlimited being ex nihilo.

[Ocklawaha]

Even IF (a huge stretch) all of the parts came together for the cosmic bang of life, still don't buy it without a guiding light. To wit:

Take the most simple mechanical watch ever made, break it down to it's parts, springs, screws, frame, case, lens, hands, etc... Put them in a small box, (again I'm giving you the box, no universe size space here) and tumble through space. It can be said with complete assurance that it will NEVER, EVER, EVER, become a working watch again. So even with machine perfect parts in place it's a no go.

Now please understand that I'm NOT playing God here. I believe there is a GOD, it is up to you as a individual to believe or not to believe. It's okay by me, we can still be friends, go to parties, have discussions etc. I'm not here to prove you wrong, or to say that God had to "CREATE" the universe in such-n-such a way. It does amuse me that most non-believers, have no trouble watching Space Sci-Fi - distant civilizations, creatures, "things" etc... without a hitch then turn on a dime and say "God? No way man!" Oddly seems that an brilliant God with a plan for his creation, is so much better then the "Purple People Eaters of Sci-Fi."  But whatever lights your fire, just remember when you get to the final hotel room, all dressed up and no-where to go, don't say I didn't warn you.

OCKLAWAHA

[RiversideGator]

The odds of some great cosmic error, are too great, in fact Roswell will get you MUCH better odds.

The odds are also pretty remote that there would exist an eternal all-powerful being like God. Seems a lot easier to make a few galaxies, governed by a limited set of physical laws, than to create an unlimited being ex nihilo.

I am afraid this is above your pay grade, will.   

[RiversideGator]

Even IF (a huge stretch) all of the parts came together for the cosmic bang of life, still don't buy it without a guiding light. To wit:

Take the most simple mechanical watch ever made, break it down to it's parts, springs, screws, frame, case, lens, hands, etc... Put them in a small box, (again I'm giving you the box, no universe size space here) and tumble through space. It can be said with complete assurance that it will NEVER, EVER, EVER, become a working watch again. So even with machine perfect parts in place it's a no go.

Now please understand that I'm NOT playing God here. I believe there is a GOD, it is up to you as a individual to believe or not to believe. It's okay by me, we can still be friends, go to parties, have discussions etc. I'm not here to prove you wrong, or to say that God had to "CREATE" the universe in such-n-such a way. It does amuse me that most non-believers, have no trouble watching Space Sci-Fi - distant civilizations, creatures, "things" etc... without a hitch then turn on a dime and say "God? No way man!" Oddly seems that an brilliant God with a plan for his creation, is so much better the "Purple People Eaters of Sci-Fi."  But whatever lights your fire, just remember when you get to the final hotel room, all dressed up and no-where to go, don't say I didn't warn you.

OCKLAWAHA

I agree with you, Ock.  I also know people (perfectly rational people) who have had supernatural experiences which tend to indicate the existence of God and life after death.  Looking at all the evidence, I find it far more likely that God exists than not.

BTW, your analogy reminds me of the theory that if you put a bunch of monkeys in a room typing randomly on typewriters they would eventually by random chance produce the complete works of Shakespeare.  That could be true but it seems to me that the most logical answer is a Supreme Being.  See also Occam's Razor.

[apvbguy]

Even IF (a huge stretch) all of the parts came together for the cosmic bang of life, still don't buy it without a guiding light. To wit:

Take the most simple mechanical watch ever made, break it down to it's parts, springs, screws, frame, case, lens, hands, etc... Put them in a small box, (again I'm giving you the box, no universe size space here) and tumble through space. It can be said with complete assurance that it will NEVER, EVER, EVER, become a working watch again. So even with machine perfect parts in place it's a no go.

Now please understand that I'm NOT playing God here. I believe there is a GOD, it is up to you as a individual to believe or not to believe. It's okay by me, we can still be friends, go to parties, have discussions etc. I'm not here to prove you wrong, or to say that God had to "CREATE" the universe in such-n-such a way. It does amuse me that most non-believers, have no trouble watching Space Sci-Fi - distant civilizations, creatures, "things" etc... without a hitch then turn on a dime and say "God? No way man!" Oddly seems that an brilliant God with a plan for his creation, is so much better the "Purple People Eaters of Sci-Fi."  But whatever lights your fire, just remember when you get to the final hotel room, all dressed up and no-where to go, don't say I didn't warn you.

OCKLAWAHA

I agree with you, Ock.  I also know people (perfectly rational people) who have had supernatural experiences which tend to indicate the existence of God and life after death.  Looking at all the evidence, I find it far more likely that God exists than not.

having been dead and brought back, I can state that in my experience there was no white light, no indication of any kind of after life, maybe there's no fanfare when you are off to hell.
please to not take this as an attack on your or anyone else's beliefs, it is just my recollection of my experiences

[RiversideGator]

Who said anything about near death experiences?

[apvbguy]

Who said anything about near death experiences?

who said near death?