City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development

Started by KenFSU, December 13, 2016, 10:43:41 PM

vicupstate

Quote from: RattlerGator on March 09, 2017, 12:33:48 PM
Quote from: vicupstate on March 08, 2017, 08:55:32 PM
Let's see how much 'skin' he is putting into THIS proposal. That will be the proof in the pudding.

Yeah, forget those prior millions. That was just to see if he was kinda-sorta serious, amirite?

Don't worry, Vic, I'm sure he'll have skin in the game on this effort, too. Not that y'all will give him some dap for his troubles.

I remember the millions of TAXPAYER dollars that have gone into gold-plating the stadium.  That is why I am skeptical that his 'skin' in this new project will exceed significantly the tax dollars 'invested'. 
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: vicupstate on March 09, 2017, 12:58:08 PM
Quote from: RattlerGator on March 09, 2017, 12:33:48 PM
Quote from: vicupstate on March 08, 2017, 08:55:32 PM
Let's see how much 'skin' he is putting into THIS proposal. That will be the proof in the pudding.

Yeah, forget those prior millions. That was just to see if he was kinda-sorta serious, amirite?

Don't worry, Vic, I'm sure he'll have skin in the game on this effort, too. Not that y'all will give him some dap for his troubles.

I remember the millions of TAXPAYER dollars that have gone into gold-plating the stadium.  That is why I am skeptical that his 'skin' in this new project will exceed significantly the tax dollars 'invested'.

It's been split nearly 50/50 if I'm not mistaken.
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FlaBoy

Does anyone have a higher resolution picture of the full plan from Shad Khan and Co.?

Captain Zissou

I still don't get the point of the stubs of the raised roadways.  They won't serve a purpose.

Kerry

I have serious doubts about any of this.  The City should just take the millions they are going to pour into this and help fund smaller in-fill developers that will actually build something.
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thelakelander

Quote from: FlaBoy on March 09, 2017, 01:19:02 PM
Does anyone have a higher resolution picture of the full plan from Shad Khan and Co.?

Click on the link for a larger image:


http://photos.moderncities.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Development/The-Shipyards-Renderings/i-cT6d5vR/X3


Also, a soil contamination map:

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thelakelander

Btw, this plan is definitely more realistic to the actual market conditions. Nevertheless, it's pretty low density. Is this a Southside Boulevard-style strip mall I'm looking at?

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FlaBoy

Quote from: thelakelander on March 09, 2017, 06:30:05 PM
Btw, this plan is definitely more realistic to the actual market conditions. Nevertheless, it's pretty low density. Is this a Southside Boulevard-style strip mall I'm looking at?



It looks similar to what was put up in Brooklyn there with Burrito Gallery. Density wise, I wonder if it has something to do with the contamination?

Keith-N-Jax

Quote from: Kerry on March 09, 2017, 05:02:08 PM
I have serious doubts about any of this.  The City should just take the millions they are going to pour into this and help fund smaller in-fill developers that will actually build something.


I have serious doubts about the city

thelakelander

^There's a surface parking lot behind it in the site plan. It's green in the rendering. But yeah, the illustration resembles the outparcels at Brooklyn Station and St. Johns Town Center.
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martt12

Has anyone even seen the other 2 proposals? I'd like to at least see them although we all know they're giving Khan the bid.

Kerry

Quote from: martt12 on March 09, 2017, 11:21:17 PM
Has anyone even seen the other 2 proposals? I'd like to at least see them although we all know they're giving Khan the bid.

Just once I wish the City would tell him No.  He has zero development experience and the City is just going to hand him the largest development opportunity in the history of Jax and millions of dollars to go with it.  I guess owning a sports team is the new "I slept at a Holiday Inn Express".
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FlaBoy

Quote from: Kerry on March 10, 2017, 09:13:52 AM
Quote from: martt12 on March 09, 2017, 11:21:17 PM
Has anyone even seen the other 2 proposals? I'd like to at least see them although we all know they're giving Khan the bid.

Just once I wish the City would tell him No.  He has zero development experience and the City is just going to hand him the largest development opportunity in the history of Jax and millions of dollars to go with it.  I guess owning a sports team is the new "I slept at a Holiday Inn Express".

The guy is a multi-billionaire self-made man. What the hell do you know about what is going on all around the world with his billions of dollars? I am sure he is just an idiot who can't do anything right. He never hires good people either.  ::) Relax man. How many people or companies are in Jacksonville worth billions of dollars that have the capabilities Khan has? You can hit him for being ALL ABOUT the money and not about the city's best interest but you are a fool to go after the man due to some sort of weird perceived incompetence.