Target to allow bathroom of choice

[spuwho]

Per Fortune:

http://fortune.com/2016/04/19/target-transgender-bathroom

Target to Allow Transgender People to Use Bathroom of Their Choice



Wading into the contentious national debate about the rights of transgender people, Target  TGT 0.67%  said on Tuesday that transgender workers and customers can use the restroom that is aligned with the gender they identify with.

"Inclusivity is a core belief at Target," the discount retailer said on its blog. "It's something we celebrate. We stand for equality and equity, and strive to make our guests and team members feel accepted, respected and welcomed in our stores and workplaces every day."

Target also said it supports the federal Equality Act, a law that provides protections to LGBT individuals, and opposes action that enables discrimination.The move comes amid an uproar over legislation recently signed into law North Carolina that compels transgender people to only use restroom in public buildings that correspond to their sex at birth. Similar laws have been passed, or are being considered elsewhere in the country, in states such as Mississippi.

The moves comes a few months after Target announced it would phase out gender-specific signage in store aisles that carry kids' toys, bedding, and books.

It's not the first time Target takes a potentially politically controversial stance on a hot issue, a potentially risky move for any retailer like Target that reaches a wide swathe of the country.

A few years ago, Target found itself in the crosshairs of guns rights activists when it asked them to leave guns in their car when coming to shop even if they have the right to bear them. The retailer has also long been a vocal supporter of LGBT rights, even featuring same-sex couples parenting children in its promotional material.

In recent years, Target has been trying to woo urban and affluent shoppers more, a demographic typically seen as supporting LGBT rights.Its stance on controversial issues has apparently not hurt business: Target's comparable sales rose 2.1 percent in 2015.

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https://youtube.com/v/T3hQN22zeW4

[tufsu1]

one more reason to shop at Target over Wal-mart

[Gunnar]

Wouldn't the simplest solution be to simply not have separate bathrooms, i.e. unisex ?

This whole thing would probably also be a lot less of an issue if stalls had proper dividers and doors in the US.

[whyisjohngalt]

This is great news and hopefully spreads to other retailers.

It says limited to transgender people but at the same time says they are against discrimination so cisgender people can as well.

Finally.

[coredumped]

Wouldn't the simplest solution be to simply not have separate bathrooms, i.e. unisex ?

This whole thing would probably also be a lot less of an issue if stalls had proper dividers and doors in the US.

There's probably some law that says you need men and woman's restrooms.

[Gunnar]

Wouldn't the simplest solution be to simply not have separate bathrooms, i.e. unisex ?

This whole thing would probably also be a lot less of an issue if stalls had proper dividers and doors in the US.

There's probably some law that says you need men and woman's restrooms.

But doesn't that become meaningless ? Unless there is a legal definition of gender that includes transgender.

[I-10east]

To the people that often say 'There has never been problems with the transgender bathroom premise' that is NOT true. There are several sides of the spectrum here. The obvious inconvenience of trans people using the restroom; people (often women) being uncomfortable with someone (usually) who's born male using a women's restroom and probably most common, perverts abusing the system. Don't shoot the messenger liberals, my personal opinion is out of this, just stating facts...

[kensdottir]

I'll just pick the clean one.

Seriously though, having been one of those women who "sneaks" into the men's room because the ladies room always has a line around the block wouldn't it just make more sense to have a water closet, or closed partition in the rest room and be done with it? I really don't care who sees me washing my hands or reapplying my lipstick, but I prefer to not have to stand next to you while you use the urinal. I've been to music festivals where the bathrooms were for everyone, and never, ever experienced a problem.

If you're concerned about children using the restroom alone - this is a perfect solution. Just go in with them to the anyone bathroom, complete with closed & private stall. No more worrying for Dad about who's going to watch his daughter in the ladies room (Women don't care about little boys going into the stall with Mum).

I know this is coming up as a transgender and gender identity issue, but in reality the solution of having an "anybody" bathroom would just be better logistically.

[johnnyliar]

just stating facts...

Where?

[Adam White]

Wouldn't the simplest solution be to simply not have separate bathrooms, i.e. unisex ?

This whole thing would probably also be a lot less of an issue if stalls had proper dividers and doors in the US.

Good point. Unisex toilets aren't an issue when you have a bunch of separate little rooms.

[I-10east]

Where?

Here's a few...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/us/teenagers-protest-a-transgender-students-use-of-the-girls-bathroom.html?_r=0

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/wa-man-women-bathroom-test-transgender-ruling-article-1.2535150

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/04/01/california-man-dressed-woman-busted-videoing-womens-bathroom/

http://wkrn.com/2016/04/07/man-charged-after-allegedly-filming-in-smyrna-womens-restrooms/

www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/man-dressed-as-a-woman-peeps-on-women-in-bathroom-at-wal-mart/2015/06/10/cd88e1d6-0f5a-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html

[I-10east]

^^^I didn't ever say anything about assaults on this thread, go back and read...Nice dramatic red text though...

[Tacachale]

Ooh, ooh, let me try.

Where?

Here's a few...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/us/teenagers-protest-a-transgender-students-use-of-the-girls-bathroom.html?_r=0

SUMMARY: Trans woman makes other women uncomfortable in a locker room (bathrooms were apparently not a problem). Letting her just use the locker, or providing gender neutral space, would resolve the issue.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/wa-man-women-bathroom-test-transgender-ruling-article-1.2535150

SUMMARY: This is a tabloid hackjob of a story that was probably a stunt pulled by a non-trans man in order to make transgender people look bad. No indication that the person is actually trans.

http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2016/02/17/23583092/two-days-before-a-state-senate-vote-on-anti-trans-bathroom-bill-pool-employees-say-a-man-showed-up-in-a-womens-locker-room

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/04/01/california-man-dressed-woman-busted-videoing-womens-bathroom/

SUMMARY: A man dressed like a woman tries to video tape in the women's bathroom; is arrested. Gender identity protections would not protect someone being disruptive in a bathroom; no relevance to the issue of trans people using the bathroom of their gender identity.

http://wkrn.com/2016/04/07/man-charged-after-allegedly-filming-in-smyrna-womens-restrooms/

SUMMARY: A man NOT dressed as a woman tries to video tape in the women's bathroom; is arrested. No relevance to anything, at all.

www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/man-dressed-as-a-woman-peeps-on-women-in-bathroom-at-wal-mart/2015/06/10/cd88e1d6-0f5a-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html

A man dressed as a woman peeps in the women's bathroom; is arrested. Gender identity protections would not protect someone being disruptive in the bathroom - and it doesn't appear that Prince William County, Virginia has such protections to begin with. No relevance to the issue of trans people using the bathroom of their gender identity.

[I-10east]

^^^Talk about spin (with your added opinions)...I'll give you the first one though. There are various other examples of these issues reported (of course usually quelled by the national media). Links that I posted is far from being 'the total archive collection of trans bathroom issues'.