Jaguars amphitheater, flex field construction to begin next month

[RattlerGator]

The transformation is going to be really quick. Maybe the impact will be quick, too.

[pierre]

Glad to see it going vertical. Still not crazy about the design. But I am glad that we will have another music venue downtown.

[Downtown Osprey]

first wave of shows announced starting May 27th

TEDESCHI TRUCKS BAND, TRAIN WITH O.A.R., DAVE MATTHEWS & TIM REYNOLDS,THIRD EYE BLIND WITH SILVERSUN PICKUPS, CHICAGO & THE DOOBIE BROTHERS, DIERKS BENTLEY WITH COLE SWINDELL & JON PARDI, FOREIGNER WITH CHEAP TRICK & JASON BONHAM'S LED ZEPPELIN EXPERIENCE, ZAC BROWN BAND, BRYAN ADAMS, GOO GOO DOLLS, 311

https://www.dailysplace.com/events/

[KenFSU]

http://jacksonville.com/entertainment/2017-01-27/jacksonville-s-tedeschi-trucks-band-play-first-show-daily-s-place

Daily's Place is being built off the south end of the stadium. It will have about 3,500 seats on the floor level, plus two 1,000-seat balconies, with every seat in the house under cover. The first balcony will connect directly to the stadium's Bud Zone; the second will connect to the Terrace Suite level.

Some of the seats will be sold as packages, Lamping said. Personal seat licenses will be sold for about 300 seats in the lower bowl, allowing fans the right to buy the same seat for every show. Those will go for $1,000-$1,500 per year.

Seats on the upper Terrace Suite level will be offered for $3,625 per year and include ticket, food, beverage and parking.

There will also be 30 loge boxes, with 4-10 seats each, that will be offered. Those will sell for $15,000-$35,000 per year and include valet parking and tickets.

Lamping said Jaguars season ticket holders will have first crack at buying tickets for events at the amphitheater. Since there are more season ticket holders than there are seats in the new facility, he said it's possible some events could be sold out before tickets ever become available to non-season ticket holders.

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.

This is some INSANE bullshit for a venue that the general public paid $45 million for.

Gonna blow up in both the Jags and the city's faces if they are serious about operating the amphitheater this way.

See you in court if true.

[Tacachale]

first wave of shows announced starting May 27th

TEDESCHI TRUCKS BAND, TRAIN WITH O.A.R., DAVE MATTHEWS & TIM REYNOLDS,THIRD EYE BLIND WITH SILVERSUN PICKUPS, CHICAGO & THE DOOBIE BROTHERS, DIERKS BENTLEY WITH COLE SWINDELL & JON PARDI, FOREIGNER WITH CHEAP TRICK & JASON BONHAM'S LED ZEPPELIN EXPERIENCE, ZAC BROWN BAND, BRYAN ADAMS, GOO GOO DOLLS, 311

https://www.dailysplace.com/events/

Yeesh.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.

This is some INSANE bullshit for a venue that the general public paid $45 million for.

Gonna blow up in both the Jags and the city's faces if they are serious about operating the amphitheater this way.

See you in court if true.

Not sure what the outrage is all about?  How is this any different than the tickets for the Jag's games themselves?  Honest question.

[KenFSU]

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.

This is some INSANE bullshit for a venue that the general public paid $45 million for.

Gonna blow up in both the Jags and the city's faces if they are serious about operating the amphitheater this way.

See you in court if true.

Not sure what the outrage is all about?  How is this any different than the tickets for the Jag's games themselves?  Honest question.

I've been a big proponent of this project since the beginning. A mid-sized concert venue is exactly what Jacksonville needs. The Jaguars paid half of construction costs, and I've got no issue at all if the team negotiated the right to run the facility and sell a certain number of luxury boxes or PLCs.

What I do have a major problem with is with ticket-buying priority being given to Jaguars' season ticket holders. And I say this as a season ticket holder myself. Lamping said there's a real possibility that all the tickets could be sold to season ticket holders prior to sales opening up to the general public. The idea that the taxpayers paid $45 million for the facility and could potentially be locked out of the best concerts, or be left to fight over the scraps that season-ticket holders don't want, is insane and monopolistic. And if that was the intention all along, it should have been disclosed up front.

This is a public asset that we're talking about, not private. 

[tufsu1]

"Lamping said Jaguars season ticket holders will have first crack at buying tickets for events at the amphitheater. Since there are more season ticket holders than there are seats in the new facility, he said it's possible some events could be sold out before tickets ever become available to non-season ticket holders."

So City taxpayers just funded a $45 million amphitheater that may in fact be exclusive to Jags season ticket holders.  Obviously the theory here being if you want to go to concerts, get season tickets too.

RattlerGator....what is your response to this? 

[finehoe]

RattlerGator....what is your response to this?

This:  "Hey, if Big Daddy Shad wants it, I'm all in!"

[KenFSU]

RattlerGator....what is your response to this?

This:  "Hey, if Big Daddy Shad wants it, I'm all in!"

The fault for this doesn't lie with Shad Khan, or the Jaguars.

They are simply acting in self-interest and trying to get the best deal that they can, as any business should.

This bullshit, if true, falls squarely on the city for agreeing to such terms and not disclosing the season-ticket clause to taxpayers upfront.

Daily's Place was a 50/50 investment, and the Jags certainly deserve their share of the revenue it drives. I don't even have a problem with pre-sale to season ticket holders, as long as it's capped at a certain, low-ish percentage of overall tickets.

But the arrangement that Lamping is speaking of is insane and predatory. I'm no legal expert, but to me, it certainly seems like an antitrust case could be made for tying.

Whoever agreed to such an arrangement should be out of a job.

[RatTownRyan]

 If the plan is to have visiting teams' fans come here for a weekend to see a concert and a football game, how will they be able to get good tickets for the concert if they are all sold to the home teams' fans? Doesn't make much sense from a tourism standpoint.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I'm on my phone,  so I'm not going to quote bits and pieces,  but how does this differ from the stadium tickets?   Do you not think that if they could sell every seat in a season ticket package they would?   That would mean zero tickets available for the GP to see games in a publicly financed venue.   This is the same exact thing, only at a smaller scale.   I don't understand the outrage.

[vicupstate]

This is a public asset that we're talking about, not private.

Riiiiiiight

[vicupstate]

I can assure you that the NFL lawyers wrote a contract that will stand up in court.

Essentially this is not an Amphitheater in the truest sense, but simply a Stadium upgrade.

The point about this not helping tourism one lick is spot on. I'm sure the folks involved with the St. Augustine venue are breathing a sigh of relief. 

[KenFSU]

I'm on my phone,  so I'm not going to quote bits and pieces,  but how does this differ from the stadium tickets?   Do you not think that if they could sell every seat in a season ticket package they would?   That would mean zero tickets available for the GP to see games in a publicly financed venue.   This is the same exact thing, only at a smaller scale.   I don't understand the outrage.

Maybe you're looking at the wrong part of the original quote.

The outrage isn't because season tickets are being offered at Daily's Place, where one lump sum gets you into every show of the year.

The outrage comes because Jaguars football season ticket holders are being offered priority purchase on up to 100% of concert tickets at Daily's Place.

In antitrust terms, it's in the realm of tying (if you want the best concert tickets, you must also buy Jaguars football tickets).

The principle point is that the city is allowing a public facility that the taxpayers financed to the tune of $45 million be used as an exclusive playground for Jaguars season ticket holders.

Let's say you're not a sports fan, but you love country music. If your favorite artist comes to town, at a city-owned venue, and you don't even have the opportunity to purchase a ticket because Jaguars' season ticket holders were given exclusive right to buy them all up long before sales even opened to the general public, that's a major problem. And if your only way of getting said concert tickets is to purchase football tickets you don't want, that's gotta be an antitrust violation.