6 or More Skyscrapers are needed Downtown.

Started by KennyLovesJAX, June 25, 2008, 08:54:48 PM

KennyLovesJAX

Jacksonville need to also have a better skyline as well. Maybe 2 or 3 700 footers, 2 650-700 footers, and a couple of in the 500's. Jacksonville would look more like it's size then.

thelakelander

Jax has a decent skyline for its size.  Don't let the city limit population fool you.  Jacksonville's urban area's population is more along the line of an urban Louisville or Memphis, as opposed to a Miami, Atlanta or Chicago.
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I think unless the developer really has the mind set on dt that you'll see more development of you guessed it gate parkway.
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jeh1980

Quote from: KennyLovesJAX on June 25, 2008, 08:54:48 PM
Jacksonville need to also have a better skyline as well. Maybe 2 or 3 700 footers, 2 650-700 footers, and a couple of in the 500's. Jacksonville would look more like it's size then.
I couldn't say it better myself! :D

David

if only we could plop them down like landmarks in simcity. Our skyline is modestly beautiful but even Louisville seems to have a denser downtown/cityscape.

Maybe in time, we've only had a modern skyline for about 30 years or so, the construction of the modis tower seemed to mark the begining of the glass & steel era.

It's a shame that riverwatch isn't going up anytime soon if at all, that would've filled in a gap. It's the aesthectic rule of 3's!




thelakelander

Louisville's is denser because they did not demolish the majority of their historic building fabric in the name of urban renewal. 

Imagine if we found a way to preserve most of the structures in this image, while still finding a way to properly accomodate many of the modern structures we have today.  The core would resemble a dense city.

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will

I'd rather see the millions needed to erect a few glass boxes pumped into neighborhood development and improvement. Skyscraper architecture is tedious and does very little to enhance the vibrancy of its surroundings.  It's always been a matter of civic or corporate vanity and serves a stark reminder that modern life cares little for the human scale.

heights unknown

Quote from: thelakelander on June 25, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
Jax has a decent skyline for its size.  Don't let the city limit population fool you.  Jacksonville's urban area's population is more along the line of an urban Louisville or Memphis, as opposed to a Miami, Atlanta or Chicago.

I disagree and completely understand what Kenney is saying.  I know what you are saying Lake and it is true; the skyline for whatever the urban population of Jax is nowadays is appropriate and decent (for a city say of between 130,000 and 200,000 without city limit extensions to the county line border?).

But, we consolidated, and...our population should be akin to say Indianapolis, Miami, Cleveland, San Francisco, Denver, Atlanta, or even Dallas.  No, we shouldn't try to make our skyline live up to the "mirrored" or false population statistics because of consolidation, but if we are thinking big league, and trying to live up to big league, then we should be big league, skyline and all.

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heights unknown

Quote from: thelakelander on June 26, 2008, 09:13:32 AM
Louisville's is denser because they did not demolish the majority of their historic building fabric in the name of urban renewal. 

Imagine if we found a way to preserve most of the structures in this image, while still finding a way to properly accomodate many of the modern structures we have today.  The core would resemble a dense city.



I agree Lake; would have been nice if could have kept most of the older buildings; most were in the 200 to 300 foot range I think.  But we would have demolished some or most anyway because we built the newer modern high rises on some of the old properties of those old low to mid rises.  Still would have been nice though to keep some of those old towers; would have added immensely to denseness.

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Jason

Quote from: KennyLovesJAX on June 25, 2008, 08:54:48 PM
Jacksonville need to also have a better skyline as well. Maybe 2 or 3 700 footers, 2 650-700 footers, and a couple of in the 500's. Jacksonville would look more like it's size then.

I did a Google Earth model a while back that showed 5 vacant lots in the CBD filled with 500-700 foot towers.  Its amazing what happened to the skyline.  I'll try to dig up the images and post them.

I'm still majorly bummed that Kuhn's Riverwatch tower didn't happen.  That one building alone would have seriously transformed the skyline.

Keith-N-Jax

Well if many of the offices in South Point were consolidated into several office towers downtown we would not be having this conversation.The offices and buildings and bussiness is here its just spread out everywhere.I was just in South Point this week,very nice out there,just imagine many if not all of those buildings downtown.

heights unknown

Quote from: Jason on June 26, 2008, 02:11:58 PM
Quote from: KennyLovesJAX on June 25, 2008, 08:54:48 PM
Jacksonville need to also have a better skyline as well. Maybe 2 or 3 700 footers, 2 650-700 footers, and a couple of in the 500's. Jacksonville would look more like it's size then.

I did a Google Earth model a while back that showed 5 vacant lots in the CBD filled with 500-700 foot towers.  Its amazing what happened to the skyline.  I'll try to dig up the images and post them.

I'm still majorly bummed that Kuhn's Riverwatch tower didn't happen.  That one building alone would have seriously transformed the skyline.

And the St. John's next to the Aetna Building on the Southbank...need to get that built too; from what I hear it is in the approved stage just waiting for many more purchase commitments; get that thing built and we do have a dramatic change, though on the Southbank, of the entire skyline (it will be taller than MODIS).

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brooklynborn

I think we need a update on all this supposed projects that was supposed to happen.

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Quote from: heights unknown on June 26, 2008, 07:57:47 PM(it will be taller than Modis)

In speaking of Modis, not the go off course, but the Modis sign on the Bay Street side(not facing the river); The "o" in Modis is partially blown off due to the tropical storm. I'll hate to be the victim to get hit wit' that!!!!

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