ISIS and the removing of the Civil War Flags, Monuments & Names are a lot alike.

[The_Choose_1]

I don't understand half of your arguments, I have to admit.

But really - based on what you're saying - what's the difference between changing the name of Forrest HS and passing the 13th Amendment? By your logic, wasn't outlawing slavery basically an attack on Confederate symbols? Is outlawing slavery an attempt to erase or change history?

We live in a democratic society.* If the people want to change the name of a school or remove a flag from a building or monument, what's the problem? No one is trying to pretend the Civil War never happened. In the case of Forrest HS, people were trying to be fair and not force a bunch of kids to go to a school that was named after the founder of the KKK as a reaction to desegregation.






*cue pedantic comment about the USA being "a republic, not a democracy" from people who didn't get past high school civics.

"In the case of Forrest HS, people were trying to be fair and not force a bunch of kids to go to a school that was named after the founder of the KKK." And the Jacksonville man that started this drive got most of his signatures from people around America and just a few people from Jacksonville. Most of the children that go to his school could careless about school. Last year I believe this school was an F school so much for being proud of their new name? ha ha ha. Try and have Robert E Lee name changed, now thelakelander will tell you no one is trying to do this. But one day someone will try but it's OK to you to change the name because if the students vote on it then everyone else should Shut Up! There are some flags I don't like but people can fly them. And I love the American Flag but if I want to protest it one day the Supreme Court says I can.  In closing Adam you act as if I need civic lessons from you. Well I don't so you believe what you want to and I will believe what I want to. Peace to most 

The name was changed by the School Board, which is made up of democratically-elected representatives. That is how a representative democracy works.

And for the record - petition or no, apparently 64% of the students at the school favored the name change. So in this instance, I think we can fairly say that the actions of the elected school board officials reflected the opinions of those most affected by the name change.

Adam you and SD always want the last word. But I will still call this school N.B. Forrest as I will still call 20th street expressway 20th street other then MLK and last Everbank stadium is still the Gator Bowl. Name changing is just stupid I understand the Gator Bowl change but then again it's owned by the city of Jacksonville I believe. I look forward to the other name changes to come because they will one day since we all should be "P C" NOT ME!

NB Forrest is owned by the city as well. So you must agree with that name change. Thanks for clearing that up.

Adam the Gator Bowl is different then a failing school. Because the fact the taxpayers of Jax/Fl owns both. Love live the Confederate States of America! I'm glad I live in the land of Dixie.

[Adam White]

I don't understand half of your arguments, I have to admit.

But really - based on what you're saying - what's the difference between changing the name of Forrest HS and passing the 13th Amendment? By your logic, wasn't outlawing slavery basically an attack on Confederate symbols? Is outlawing slavery an attempt to erase or change history?

We live in a democratic society.* If the people want to change the name of a school or remove a flag from a building or monument, what's the problem? No one is trying to pretend the Civil War never happened. In the case of Forrest HS, people were trying to be fair and not force a bunch of kids to go to a school that was named after the founder of the KKK as a reaction to desegregation.






*cue pedantic comment about the USA being "a republic, not a democracy" from people who didn't get past high school civics.

"In the case of Forrest HS, people were trying to be fair and not force a bunch of kids to go to a school that was named after the founder of the KKK." And the Jacksonville man that started this drive got most of his signatures from people around America and just a few people from Jacksonville. Most of the children that go to his school could careless about school. Last year I believe this school was an F school so much for being proud of their new name? ha ha ha. Try and have Robert E Lee name changed, now thelakelander will tell you no one is trying to do this. But one day someone will try but it's OK to you to change the name because if the students vote on it then everyone else should Shut Up! There are some flags I don't like but people can fly them. And I love the American Flag but if I want to protest it one day the Supreme Court says I can.  In closing Adam you act as if I need civic lessons from you. Well I don't so you believe what you want to and I will believe what I want to. Peace to most 

The name was changed by the School Board, which is made up of democratically-elected representatives. That is how a representative democracy works.

And for the record - petition or no, apparently 64% of the students at the school favored the name change. So in this instance, I think we can fairly say that the actions of the elected school board officials reflected the opinions of those most affected by the name change.

Adam you and SD always want the last word. But I will still call this school N.B. Forrest as I will still call 20th street expressway 20th street other then MLK and last Everbank stadium is still the Gator Bowl. Name changing is just stupid I understand the Gator Bowl change but then again it's owned by the city of Jacksonville I believe. I look forward to the other name changes to come because they will one day since we all should be "P C" NOT ME!

NB Forrest is owned by the city as well. So you must agree with that name change. Thanks for clearing that up.

Adam the Gator Bowl is different then a failing school. Because the fact the taxpayers of Jax/Fl owns both. Love live the Confederate States of America! I'm glad I live in the land of Dixie.

Wow, you really have to get the last word, huh?

[Tacachale]

The Confederates did have the last word, after all:

[The_Choose_1]

I wish I was in the land of cotton,
Old times there are not forgotten;
    Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
In Dixie's Land where I was born in,
Early on one frosty morning,
    Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!

(Chorus)
Then I wish I was in Dixie! Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie's Land I'll take my stand, to live and die in Dixie!
Away! Away! Away down South in Dixie!
Away! Away! Away down South in Dixie!

Old Missus married "Will the Weaver";
William was a gay deceiver!
    Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
But when he put his arm around her,
Smiled as fierce as a forty-pounder!
    Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!

(Chorus)
His face was sharp as a butcher's cleaver;
But that did not seem to grieve her!
    Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
Old Missus acted the foolish part
And died for a man that broke her heart!
    Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
(Chorus)

Now here's a health to the next old missus
And all the gals that want to kiss us!
    Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
But if you want to drive away sorrow,
Come and hear this song tomorrow!
    Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
(Chorus)
There's buckwheat cakes and Injin batter,
Makes you fat or a little fatter!
    Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
Then hoe it down and scratch your gravel,
To Dixie's Land I'm bound to travel!
    Look away! Look away! Look away, Dixie's Land!
(Chorus)

[thelakelander]

Lol at this thread!



Why stop in the 1860s? The Delorean can take us to any century we want to go...

[Tacachale]

Where we're going, we don't need brains.