Are the Jags for sale?

[FBT]

He also clearly and unequivocally stated that the team is not for sale.  End of story as far as I am concerned.

Anything is for sale if the price is right.

Weaver will stick it out for as long as he can, and it is encouraging that he has indicated that his family would take over the team if something happened to him.  However, there have been reports in the past that have indicated precisely the opposite. 

I don't anticipate Weaver selling the team any time soon, but if he does, I suspect that one of the major criteria for him being willing to do so would be keeping the team in Jacksonville.  That's what my posts at MVN boil down to when all is said and done.  I'm not trying to feed a rumor mill.  Simply trying to give the fans perspective. 

[blizz01]

Just to clarify, Hasn't LA lost NFL franchises on at least 2 occasions, and, why?

[thebrokenforum]

I'm not trying to feed a rumor mill.  Simply trying to give the fans perspective. 

Ok...but by doing yet another article about it you are indeed feeding the rumor mill (whether you intend to or not) because all articles of this particular subject matter do is add fuel to the fire no matter what the stance is.

Did you get tired of posting this stuff over at jaguars.com or what? It's a dead horse. It's been a dead horse. The horse is so dead that it doesn't even resemble a horse any more - it's just a pile of dust and maybe a bone or two. I fail to see what new perspective you can bring to an issue that has been debated to death. There's at least a new story about every other week and the message boards always fill up with this theory or that theory...or will Wayne do this or will he do that, blah, blah, blah. The guy's status and what he may do or say is becoming mythic with all of the different and alleged things he's said.

We're in what's known as the "dead zone" now so what else is there talk about...? OMG! They're gonna' sell the team! Quick, to the rumor-mobile, Batman! The fact of the matter is that the Jags could win the super bowl this year and people would still be talking about them going to LA, lol.

There are no absolutes. However I do know that this is an exciting time to be a Jag fan and this season is going to be very exciting to watch. Let the conspiracy theorists and haters do their thing. We have a division title to go after...

[FBT]

Did you actually read either one of the articles?  Or, did you just identify the topic and decide to rip it?

I'm a Jaguars fan.  The last that I want is to see the team that I support leave this city.  I've invested 13 years (now going into year 14) into attending games, owning season tickets, and taking great pleasure in both the success and failure that this franchise has endured during it's life cycle.

Like any Jaguar fan, I'm certainly excited about the prospects for this season, as I am prior to EVERY season.

That doesn't mean that I'm going to stick my head in the sand and ignore the realities of what is going on right now. 

This team has issues that clearly strike a nerve with national media types to make them believe that the Jags are A) for sale, and B) potential relocation candidates.  To stick my fingers in my ears and pretend it's not happening is simply not something I chose to do in this instance.

The only way for people to understand how important it is to support this franchise is to make sure that they are fully aware of what the possibilities are.  If you think that's beating dead horse, great.  That's certainly your prerogative, and you're well within your rights to believe that.  I didn't ask you to read the article.  I didn't ask you to agree with it.  You're more than welcome to ignore the content as you see fit.

Just remember that somewhere down the road, at some point, this issue is going to have to be addressed.  There are fans out there that remain clueless about the potential here.  Feel free to be part of that crowd.

[thebrokenforum]

Listen, I am not arguing on whether you're a fan or not - I know you are. I am also not arguing that ticket sales are an issue but it's just such a tired and tried issue - you can't dispute that. It's talked about just about every single day, both positively and negatively. It's like a panic button for some Jag fans and the media knows that. It's goofy to listen to some fans argue about this issue so passionately when there's really nothing to argue about.

I am going to go and stick my head back in the sand now.

[JagsMac]

I think the more important point is the one which FBT discusses. Some hack, with complete misinformation, who is not even LOCAL(gawd knows we have enough LOCAL hacks who can do no better than blatant attempts at "shock-jock" jounalism), can get on a soapbox and get off an hour-long, unimformed rant with little or no opposition, and when knowledgeable opposition was presented, it was cut off as "wrong".

I'm also WAY past sick and tired of this story, but the facts must continually be presented correctly until it is a non story.

[Coolyfett]

Last I heard Wayne Weaver lived in Riverside at the foot of Stockton Street in the Villa Riva condominium development. 

FACT!! Weaver does hang in Riverside. I used to see him 2 to 3 times a week jogging on Riverside Ave. And he don't run slow either!! I used to always see him between Riverside-Lomax corner & Riverside-Edision. Dude seems pretty healthy from what I saw. Its weird he has sons that ain't amped to own the team....

The writer of this article is a hater man....I mean cmon we have been hearing this crap since 2003. The author just wants people to buy tickets., which is cool but this ain't the way to go about motivating fans to get tickets. Using some form of press to scare people.

I'll be at 2 games this season!! No Doubt!! Garrard & Jones-Drew gonna do big things baby!! BIG THANGS!!!


Wayne Weaver is not a turtle.

[Coolyfett]

This story has come up so many times I've lost count. And it's absolutely unfounded. There are all kinds of rumors and speculation about our city and our fans that it's way beyond ridiculous now. It's insulting. The answer to all the guessing is simple: support the team. Like Vic Ketchman says: protect this house.

I am tired of these stories and excited for this season. I honestly do not believe that the jaguars are leaving Jax ever. But here's some food for thought. If they did go what kind of identity does that leave Jax with? The jags have been great for this city and things only look to get better. There are a constant positive in a (recently) sea of negatives. Under Peyton we would be the murder capital of Florida. The city with absolutely horrible public and mass transit options. The Hoo-Hah Monologue town. Pro football is not everyone's cup of coffee but imagine this city without it. Especially now. Pretty disheartening to think about in my opinion.

Protect this house!

Relax.  The point of the article had nothing to do with the team actually leaving.  In fact, quite the opposite.  I wrote that blog after being subjected to an hour on one of the local sports talk shows of hearing about how dire things are, and about how the situation is so bad that the team could wind up relocating as a result. 

I wrote that article because as I sat at mini-camps this past weekend, I was approached by at least 3 people that indicated that they had "heard rumors" about the DeBartolo thing, and that the team was definitely on the block and for sale.

I wrote that article because on more than one occasion in the past month, the Jaguars have been listed as one of 3 or 4 teams that has the potential to be on the short list for the stadium in Los Angeles.

The entire premise of that article, and the one written previously about the ticket sales was to point out that it's not as bad as the pundits in the national media (who do not have a clue about the city of Jacksonville other than they knowing that it's somewhere they don't want to be) would like to portray it here for the franchise.

Tim McClellan is no sports writer. He is just a fan. He posts on the Jaguars message board on jaguars.com as FBT.

You are 100% correct, No journalistic credability what-so-ever

I wasn't aware that fan blogs required journalistic "credability" from people such as yourself.  I'll try harder next time.

Personally man I felt like your article sucked. Simple as that. Come differently next time or just keep writing bullshit. "will the jags leave?" "will the jags leave?" "will the jags leave?" Ahm.....NO.

[FBT]

I hope you won't take it too personally that I don't particularly care what you think.  I will write what I wish, and I will frame any subject in the manner that I prefer.  Nobody is forcing you to read it.

As far as me being a "hater," thanks for the laugh. 

[thelakelander]

This team has issues that clearly strike a nerve with national media types to make them believe that the Jags are A) for sale, and B) potential relocation candidates.  To stick my fingers in my ears and pretend it's not happening is simply not something I chose to do in this instance.

What are some other NFL teams that the national media believes may be potential relocation candidates?

[FBT]

This team has issues that clearly strike a nerve with national media types to make them believe that the Jags are A) for sale, and B) potential relocation candidates.  To stick my fingers in my ears and pretend it's not happening is simply not something I chose to do in this instance.

What are some other NFL teams that the national media believes may be potential relocation candidates?

Minnesota, New Orleans, Buffalo, San Francisco, and San Diego are the teams that are most often mentioned as being in a situation where they might be looking to move.

Buffalo would more than likely head north of the border, so I'm not looking at them in this instance. 

New Orleans would probably wind up leaning heavily toward San Antonio.

Minnesota, San Francisco, and San Diego are all dealing with significant stadium issues.  Any one of those three teams could be targeted for L.A. at some point. 

Then you can throw in one team that's always going to be a wildcard with the L.A. market, and that's the Raiders.  Either Al would make a move to take the team back to L.A. to head off another AFC franchise from going there, or his son almost certainly will once the old man is out of the picture.  The stadium out in Oakland is a dump, and they struggle worse than the Jaguars do with blackouts.  As loyal as their fans are supposed to be, they don't want to be in that stadium for a variety of reasons. 

Another team that's suddenly in the market for a new stadium is the Falcons.  I wouldn't necessarily expect them to become the talk of the Los Angeles market, but with all of the troubles that the franchise has endured in recent years coupled with Atlanta being just a lousy sports town might make them a hot commodity for an ownership group to pursue and move to the left coast.

[I-10east]

^^^I heard that the Niners are trying to get a new stadium built in Santa Clara, CA.

I totally agree with "thebrokenforum" concerning "The Jags might be moving" type threads are so annoying.

[Driven1]

cooleyfett - you need to chill out.  you are using personal attacks when there really is no need for it.  not here.  the guy's article was well-written and original.  just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean you have to tear the guy down.  just say you don't agree with and give the reasons.  simple as that.

[Charleston native]

Here is one consistent fact that would completely refute rumors of the Jaguars moving to LA:

Two (not one, but TWO) NFL teams have failed in LA. One was a completely new franchise and the other was a re-location from Oakland. While LA may still have the allure of being the 2nd largest television market in the country, it has failed to maintain enough interest in the population to keep two teams. That is unprecedented.

The football culture of LA is very different from other NFL cities, apparently.

[Driven1]

oh yeah---i think Los Angeles is definitely a NoGo...i could see somewhere like Vegas though one day.