White Police Officer Shoots and Kills Unarmed Black Man.

Started by Jax native, April 07, 2015, 09:39:11 PM

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fsquid

Quote from: TheCat on April 10, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
Come on, the only ones with race issues are those in the media. They are obviously using the race card to grab viewers.

Obviously, there is no way race issues can possibly exist in America. Media companies know how to exploit the fantasy of racism in America. 


This is what I am reading and hearing anytime a situation like this happens.  :-[

fsquid

Quote from: TheCat on April 10, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
Come on, the only ones with race issues are those in the media. They are obviously using the race card to grab viewers.

Obviously, there is no way race issues can possibly exist in America. Media companies know how to exploit the fantasy of racism in America. 


This is what I am reading and hearing anytime a situation like this happens.  :-[

Racism does exist in America and always will to some extent.  I also believe that media companies will overplay the race card to fill airtime. 

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ronchamblin

#49
Beautiful ..... love it.

The video I mean.

The sonovabitch is right .... 90 % right.

Jax native

#50
No one wants to see any police officer killed in the line of duty.  When an officer was killed on the job in Texas a few years ago, he was honored and memorialized with a line of police cars, firetrucks, and various other government agencies that stretched for miles.  That was my understanding of what it meant to be a police officer; you willingly risked putting yourself in harm's way if that's what the job called for, in order to serve and protect, and we acknowledged that sacrifice by honouring those who lost their lives working to make out better. 

It's become abundantly clear that a frightening number (if i may so majority) of police officers are not willing to get a fucking hangnail if that's what it takes to protect and serve.  Twice a day police officers encounters unambiguously non-lethal force and don't hesitate to kill a citizen.  I don't want to argue with anyone over the legality of a police radio; there are too many examples for any rational person to maintain any benefit of the doubt.

What happened?  At what point did police officers become a class of citizens that's allowed to scram the fuck out of harm's way as soon as someone assaults or moves toward them, or glances at them funny, or is black?  No one wants to see a police officer get injured, not does anyone believe that it's appropriate for anyone to assault or hurt one, and legally we do not punish resisting arrest, assaulting an officer, or walking down a dark stairwell with death, so fuck the tired arguments of blaming the deceased.

I am not denigrating the job that they do, nor the risks that they take.  I am fucking outraged and appalled at the cowards who don't have the integrity to admit that they can't handle the situations that they're paid to potentially walk into (Cleveland Arms).  And just as disgusted by the silence of the mythical "good cops', who are willing to fulfill their duty, but equally willing to work alongside and protect the selfish assholes who wear the uniform and abandon its implicit responsibilities in case they take a punch.

When did this change? Am I completely wrong thinking that officers were ever expected to act with any bravery?  I mean, i know I'm underselling the problem of police brutality, police shootings, and the integrity of out police officers as it currently exists, but I honestly thought that we respected the police largely because they were willing to take on dangerous situations with a goal of making them safer.  If they are just a protected class of dickheads with 077's License to kill,then how does anyone maintain a shred of respect?  Fuckery fuck. 






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thelakelander

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Jax native

It didn't have to be a matter of time.  Cops admitted they had no reason to chase this guy.  In Florida you need probable cause to accost someone, although that has never stopped JSO.  They beat the crap out of him before he even was pushed in van.  He's screaming in pain because someone has severed his spine, and they stopped and put him in leg irons.  WHY?  WHY WAS HE EVEN BEING PURSUED?

Cops should have admitted straight way they fucked up, put guys on leave and stop trying to cover up crimes by cops.  Instead they kept blaming others and the cowards wouldn't admit the truth.  They killed this guy for nothing.

I hope every single police station stops this shit before everyone gets killed.  Cops should have stopped this...........Cops are NOT always right. 

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thelakelander

A lot deeper...a few centuries of cause and effect, mixed with high pockets of no hope, poverty and little opportunity. Harsh policing tactics tend to result in the exposed frustration being witnessed in Baltimore now.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

finehoe

After protests in Baltimore over the death of Freddie Gray turned violent on Saturday, Baltimore sports-radio broadcaster Brett Hollander took to Twitter to argue that demonstrations that negatively impact the daily lives of fellow citizens are counter-productive. Orioles COO John Angelos, son of owner Peter Angelos, seized the opportunity to respond with a qualified and brilliant defense of those protesting.

You can read the whole thing in Angelos' Twitter replies, but it's transcribed here for clarity. It's all here because it's all so good. Read the whole thing:

    Brett, speaking only for myself, I agree with your point that the principle of peaceful, non-violent protest and the observance of the rule of law is of utmost importance in any society. MLK, Gandhi, Mandela and all great opposition leaders throughout history have always preached this precept. Further, it is critical that in any democracy, investigation must be completed and due process must be honored before any government or police members are judged responsible.

    That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night's property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American's civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.

    The innocent working families of all backgrounds whose lives and dreams have been cut short by excessive violence, surveillance, and other abuses of the Bill of Rights by government pay the true price, and ultimate price, and one that far exceeds the importances of any kids' game played tonight, or ever, at Camden Yards. We need to keep in mind people are suffering and dying around the U.S., and while we are thankful no one was injured at Camden Yards, there is a far bigger picture for poor Americans in Baltimore and everywhere who don't have jobs and are losing economic civil and legal rights, and this makes inconvenience at a ballgame irrelevant in light of the needless suffering government is inflicting upon ordinary Americans.


http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/orioles-john-angelos-baltimore-protests-mlb

menace1069

Quote from: finehoe on April 28, 2015, 08:42:45 AM
That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night's property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American's civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.
The undertones of his message is understood, but the bulk of the rioters were teenagers who were give free reign by the mayor to loot and terrorize.
I could be wrong about that...it's been known to happen.

menace1069

Quote from: stephendare on April 28, 2015, 09:10:42 AM
Quote from: menace1069 on April 28, 2015, 09:03:14 AM
Quote from: finehoe on April 28, 2015, 08:42:45 AM
That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night's property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American's civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.
The undertones of his message is understood, but the bulk of the rioters were teenagers who were give free reign by the mayor to loot and terrorize.

is that your professional opinion or is that actually backed up by any sources or documentation?

Like was there a meeting where she agreed to these things?  Or are you just telling tales out of school?
Thanks for the response, although I'm not quite sure of why you are being snooty about it.
No, it wasn't my professional opinion, but rather what I witnessed on the news coverage.
As my post reads, and there is nothing between the lines, the bulk of the rioters were, according to the video that I saw during the news coverage, teenagers. This was also corroborated by the newscaster on scene in Baltimore.
The second portion of my post "who were give free reign by the mayor to loot and terrorize" was in reference to the Baltimore mayor although she stated specifically so that "they could have space to vent their frustrations."
Again, thanks for responding.
I could be wrong about that...it's been known to happen.

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Unfortunately with all the recent events of violence by police, the media has used this opportunity to put a wedge in American society between races. Now personally I am just short of 30 years old so I did not live through the 60s obviously, but I can say with certainty that racial tension/relations are at the worst stage I have seen in my life. Everything most of us have worked so hard for is being destroyed and its "partially" the fault of the media for constantly sticking to one side of the story. I truly believe that Baltimore is just the tip of the iceberg for what is coming in the next few years.

Now Freddie Gray absolutely did NOT deserve what happened to him. He was unarmed and clearly no serious threat. However this does not justify the violent "protesting" or what ever you want to call it. Burning and looting your own community will never accomplish anything besides making the bulk of Americans think to themselves what a bunch of f'ing morons. And the more the media shows footage of these mainly black folks doing stuff like this, the more resentment and disgust builds in many white American's minds. This may or may not be my personal stance, this is just my observation based on the conversations i have had with others.