south Liberty Street Drama

Started by downtownbrown, February 01, 2015, 10:43:20 AM

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downtownbrown

February 01, 2015, 10:43:20 AM
Apparently the 3 year old hole in Liberty Street has just become a total street collapse. 

thelakelander

#2
February 01, 2015, 05:43:40 PM Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 05:46:51 PM by thelakelander
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Tacachale

#3
February 01, 2015, 05:45:34 PM
Yep, we sure do a great job investing in our downtown.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

thelakelander

#4
February 01, 2015, 06:15:22 PM
FDOT was planning to replace these decks in 2020. The estimated cost is $33.1 million. See page 8 in the link below:

http://d2wpph.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/Duval.pdf
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

tufsu1

#5
February 01, 2015, 06:43:02 PM Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 06:46:28 PM by tufsu1
The City has been in engaged in a lawsuit with a contractor that was working on the Berkman garage (and no I don't mean Berkman II garage)...they were working in the area when first hole happened 3 years ago.  Maybe now the City will fix it regardless of the lawsuit.

As for FDOT,  I think they were going to do the required PD&E study in 2014/2015 but then delayed.  For those thinking "this is a local road" FDOT has responsibility for pretty much all bridges in the state.

downtownbrown

#6
February 01, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
city council actually approved funding for the original hole last week.  Let's how long this one takes. 

I-10east

#7
February 02, 2015, 05:31:09 AM
My only main concern is people's safety at this point, versus a status quo of negative memes. It's safe to say that is is a very complex situation (back & forth between FDOT & the city) and most streets aren't built over rivers.

I-10east

#8
February 02, 2015, 05:32:56 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on February 01, 2015, 05:45:34 PM
Yep, we sure do a great job investing in our downtown.

Who is we?? The FDOT?

I-10east

#9
February 02, 2015, 05:54:52 AM
I never liked that plan to build a vast concrete deck over a river to begin with. It seems like that would be an inspection nightmare, considerably more difficult than a normal bridge. That prior situation was far from a normal 'patch & go' pothole issue. I wouldn't even consider that a 'pothole', to be that, you have to have a 'bottom'.  The city did the right thing roping it off, and staying out of that mess that the FDOT was responsible for. 

thelakelander

#10
February 02, 2015, 06:38:53 AM
This situation was considered important enough to run in the Miami Herald....

Portion of Jacksonville road collapses into river
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/article8930390.html
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

copperfiend

#11
February 02, 2015, 06:41:43 AM
What a mess

Charles Hunter

#12
February 02, 2015, 07:13:05 AM
Have Clay or Don blamed "teh Gays" yet?

Lunican

#13
February 02, 2015, 08:40:21 AM
Not sure if anyone has noticed or not but the intersection of Market St. and Coastline Drive is also in motion. A dip in the bricks has appeared over the past few months. This is right where they had to make emergency repairs in 2007.

Photos from January 2007:


vicupstate

#14
February 02, 2015, 09:03:27 AM
I would hate to be a Berkman Townhouse owner. Isn't that built over the river as well?
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