Carolina should sign Tebow.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

They already have backup QBs on the roster, the season is just about over, and Newton may not miss that much time anyway.

To be fair, the Panthers are only half a game out of leading the division with a divisional game to be played this weekend - Tampa Bay.

The same team that Derek Carr beat at the beginning of the season when Cam was recovering from surgery.

Yeah, but I still don't see how bringing in someone off the couch is going to help the situation this late in the season. They're better off with the QBs on the roster if Cam can't play.

Weird... I was agreeing with you.  lol

[thelakelander]

Oh yes, I know. That's was intended for the those who believe Tebow can just show up and immediately become John Elway.

[coredumped]

Oh yes, I know. That's was intended for the those who believe Tebow can just show up and immediately become John Elway.

Sadly, there's a lot of people who think that. In reality, they're ALL WRONG. If Tebow is so great, why have 32 teams passed on him and he now works for mickey? Again, he's a great guy, just not cut out for the NFL.
But don't cry in your beer tebow-lovers, he's still very well off and won't go hungry.

[Ocklawaha]

I'm still of a mind that the Jag's should probationally hire him. Let him get in shape for next season as a back-up for our current QB.

I would orchestrate it thusly:

Tebow has a rabid 'cult' following, they will buy seats no matter what for at least ½ of a very bad Tebow season. Let him pay a few in each game which will bring amazing national media attention 'Home town boy does...' type of stories. If he never improves and remains so-so, then he can sell seats and remain playing a bit as a relief QB. At the end of that season, he could be cut or traded if he didn't make the grade, meanwhile the seats are sold and the positive media is already in the hands of the masses. Win-win for Jacksonville as a city, and at worst not a lose-lose for the team. If he somehow lights off and becomes a blowtorch of victories, we can reassess the plan.

No star salary, no star promises, just a shot and some really amazing PR for a team that has been word-whipped for the last several years.

[Wacca Pilatka]

No, it will result in more word-whipping.

At the risk of beating a dead horse because I've written about it in about 500 posts in the past two or three years, the national media recognizes Tebow as being unable to hit the broad side of a barn with a pass and perceives Jacksonville as a minor-league market that can't support pro sports.

Signing him is walking into a parade of chortling media members ridiculing Jacksonville as a place that needs a sideshow to sell tickets.   Nothing but negative PR would come of this move.  This is why the Jacksonville-despising national sports press has desperately tried to will it to happen.

Incidentally, the Jaguars' ticket sales could be better but they're hardly anemic, and the seats that fail to sell are mostly expensive club seats on the east side of the stadium.  The Tebow cult isn't going to buy club seats to watch him sit on a bench.

And he's not even so-so.  He completed 46% of his passes in the year where Denver miraculously won some games in spite of him (though they lost 4 of his last 5 starts), then somehow was even less accurate when two other teams gave him preseason chances.

And there is no earthly scenario where he starts over a quarterback with an actual NFL-caliber arm and "somehow lights off."  Or where the Jaguars' three talented rookie receivers are left to rot as Tebow throws 8 passes a game.

[Gamblor]

Tebow seems like a nice enough guy......
No ill will toward Tebow

First I'll say I agree with everything you said which I just cut, and I love your post on Jags. But I'd like to take qualm with these two commonly uttered phrases. Tebow and his family worked every angle they could to raise opposition to the team not selecting Tim in the top 10 of the draft (as if he deserved such a thing). They encouraged the local community to not support the team, not buy tickets/jerseys/hats ect., unless Tim was on it. They essentially held the Jaguars hostage. And when given the opportunity for what they wanted they picked NYC (for it's media profile, because lets face it Tim loves a camera and a microphone more than his hometown) and then lied about the whole situation (anyone remember the umms and ahhs coming out of his mouth when Prisco confronted him at the presser?). Does that really seem like a nice guy? People only kiss his ass because he is a zealot, and there a lots of other zealots in this town to be won over by him. But as far as I'm concerned, as a fan of the Jaguars since Touchdown Jacksonville, I have plenty of reason for ill will towards him, which at this point is all I have (and for the record I'm a Gator booster with season tickets to several sports including football)

[Wacca Pilatka]

First I'll say I agree with everything you said which I just cut, and I love your post on Jags. But I'd like to take qualm with these two commonly uttered phrases. Tebow and his family worked every angle they could to raise opposition to the team not selecting Tim in the top 10 of the draft (as if he deserved such a thing). They encouraged the local community to not support the team, not buy tickets/jerseys/hats ect., unless Tim was on it. They essentially held the Jaguars hostage. And when given the opportunity for what they wanted they picked NYC (for it's media profile, because lets face it Tim loves a camera and a microphone more than his hometown) and then lied about the whole situation (anyone remember the umms and ahhs coming out of his mouth when Prisco confronted him at the presser?). Does that really seem like a nice guy?

Couldn't agree more with you, Gamblor.  And I am shocked more people don't perceive it this way.  As far as I am concerned, this family was willing for the city to be humiliated in the national press as long as it served personal interests.  The "Just draft him!" movement and the implicit boycott threat were an embarrassment to this city and to every passionate defender of Jacksonville and its viability as a professional sports city.

And the Jacksonville media's continued failure to report on the charitable activities or faith of Jaguars players, while sparing no opportunity to hype Tebow's, is mind-boggling and created a perception among certain locals that he was saintly while the team was full of "thugs," and made it trendy to root against the franchise until organizations like Bold City and the reincarnated TD Jax rose up in late 2009.   I don't think the Jaguars will ever leave Jacksonville, but the media and the Tebow adulation sure created a risk that that would happen. 

And please spare me the "he's special because he's from here and a charitable Christian" argument.  So is Rashean Mathis, who played at a high level for the Jaguars for a decade and was heavily involved in charities like Dignity U Wear, for which he garnered zero positive attention from the Jacksonville media.  David Garrard was every bit as overt about his faith, and a genuinely nice and decent man who represented Jacksonville extremely well.  So are/were Josh Scobee, Daryl Smith, Tyson Alualu, Donovin Darius, Montell Owens, and a host of others.  But you'd never know that from reading the Times-Union.

In full disclosure, I am a Christian yet have been accused of anti-Christian bigotry for not fawning all over Tebow.  Forgive me for thinking a man who has no objection to a common prayer posture being renamed after him might be most interested in promoting himself.

[I-10east]

Nice try BSC, but Derek Anderson will get the start vs the Bucs.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/10/panthers-confirm-cam-newton-is-out-derek-anderson-will-start/

[Gamblor]

First I'll say I agree with everything you said which I just cut, and I love your post on Jags. But I'd like to take qualm with these two commonly uttered phrases. Tebow and his family worked every angle they could to raise opposition to the team not selecting Tim in the top 10 of the draft (as if he deserved such a thing). They encouraged the local community to not support the team, not buy tickets/jerseys/hats ect., unless Tim was on it. They essentially held the Jaguars hostage. And when given the opportunity for what they wanted they picked NYC (for it's media profile, because lets face it Tim loves a camera and a microphone more than his hometown) and then lied about the whole situation (anyone remember the umms and ahhs coming out of his mouth when Prisco confronted him at the presser?). Does that really seem like a nice guy?

Couldn't agree more with you, Gamblor.  And I am shocked more people don't perceive it this way.  As far as I am concerned, this family was willing for the city to be humiliated in the national press as long as it served personal interests.  The "Just draft him!" movement and the implicit boycott threat were an embarrassment to this city and to every passionate defender of Jacksonville and its viability as a professional sports city.

And the Jacksonville media's continued failure to report on the charitable activities or faith of Jaguars players, while sparing no opportunity to hype Tebow's, is mind-boggling and created a perception among certain locals that he was saintly while the team was full of "thugs," and made it trendy to root against the franchise until organizations like Bold City and the reincarnated TD Jax rose up in late 2009.   I don't think the Jaguars will ever leave Jacksonville, but the media and the Tebow adulation sure created a risk that that would happen. 

And please spare me the "he's special because he's from here and a charitable Christian" argument.  So is Rashean Mathis, who played at a high level for the Jaguars for a decade and was heavily involved in charities like Dignity U Wear, for which he garnered zero positive attention from the Jacksonville media.  David Garrard was every bit as overt about his faith, and a genuinely nice and decent man who represented Jacksonville extremely well.  So are/were Josh Scobee, Daryl Smith, Tyson Alualu, Donovin Darius, Montell Owens, and a host of others.  But you'd never know that from reading the Times-Union.

In full disclosure, I am a Christian yet have been accused of anti-Christian bigotry for not fawning all over Tebow.  Forgive me for thinking a man who has no objection to a common prayer posture being renamed after him might be most interested in promoting himself.

Love what you added, especially Mathis stuff. I first met Rashean when I was getting an old Land Rover I had serviced. Now mind you this was when Rashean was a very young player on his first contract, so as I was waiting and looking around the show room, I saw him pull up in a very beat up old nissan or toyota. As he started looking around, I came up, introduced myself, told him I loved his play, wish'd him the best, yada yada yada. Instead of brushing me off, he shook my hand, took a few minutes to really talk with me. Driving home I wondered if maybe he was going to sign a new deal since he had been looking at some really high end cars. The next day, it was announced he was and had gotten a big contract. I met him again several years later at a charity event after all the accolades and other big contracts, and he seemed like the same extremely friendly and kind hearted guy. I told him then I was disappointed he wasn't spoken of in the likes of Freddy, Jimmy, Tony, ect. and he seemed to really appreciate that. Really an overlooked legend, and a totally stand up guy who asks for no attention, just goes about trying to do his best at everything. If we had a team of Rasheans, I'm sure I'd be very happy about the team on and off the field.

Oh and I know what you mean about having your loyalties questioned over this. At several UF events people have said I'm not a true Gator, because I don't bend over backwards to rejoice in Tebow. Apparently remembering that Chris Leak won the first title and Percy Harvin the second during the "Tebow Era" is a bad thing. I also remember Tebow crying on the sideline like an idiot during an SEC title game which he blew, but one must never speak of such ills!

[highanklesprain]

That's an interesting way of spelling "Denver's Defense."

I kid, but seriously, Tim Tebow's NFL stats make Blaine Gabbert look like Joe Montana by comparison.

Gabbert:
Games Played: 29
Completion %: 53.2
Yards: 4,395
Touchdowns: 23

Tebow:
Games Played: 35
Completion %: 47.9
Yards: 2,422
Touchdowns: 17

Sorry, but your stats are completely misleading, not sure whether intentionally or not. You cannot say that Tebow played 35 games and compare that to Gabbert's 29 games. Tebow started 16 games which is almost half of what Gabbert started. Tebow is credited for games played in which he did not take any meaningful snaps at QB, including 12 of those 35 games with the Jets in which he barely played at all. When you look at Tebow's starts vs Gabbert's starts, plus factor in the total yardage, TDs, and turnovers, it is actually Gabbert who makes Tebow look like Joe Montana. Not saying Tebow was the greatest, but at least be honest when you post comparisons.

Tebow's production was worlds better. More TDs and very close to total yardage in a little more than half the games started. Gabbert beats Tebow in completion percentage, but that's about it.

Gabbert:
Games Played: 29
Completion %: 53.2
Total Yards: 4,586
Touchdowns: 23
Turnovers: 35

Tebow:
Games Started: 16
Completion %: 47.9
Total Yards: 3,926
Touchdowns: 32
Turnovers: 16

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I kid, but seriously, Tim Tebow's NFL stats make Blaine Gabbert look like Joe Montana by comparison.

Tebow's production was worlds better.

Both of you need to just stop.

I'll I see is, "My big, steaming pile of shit is better than your big, steaming pile of shit."

That's beside the fact that my dog's turds can probably throw a more accurate pass than either one of them.

[Wacca Pilatka]

NRW, I was waiting for you to chime in on this thread...

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

NRW, I was waiting for you to chime in on this thread...

Ha....  And I didn't even do it under the guise of a second account.

BTW, when did you start a second screen name:  Gamblor? 

[KenFSU]

I kid, but seriously, Tim Tebow's NFL stats make Blaine Gabbert look like Joe Montana by comparison.

Tebow's production was worlds better.

Both of you need to just stop.

I'll I see is, "My big, steaming pile of shit is better than your big, steaming pile of shit."

That's beside the fact that my dog's turds can probably throw a more accurate pass than either one of them.

I JUST CAN'T HELP IT.

I hear that name and I snap

[Gamblor]

NRW, I was waiting for you to chime in on this thread...

Ha....  And I didn't even do it under the guise of a second account.

BTW, when did you start a second screen name:  Gamblor? 

I take offense to such accusations.