Festival ‘Sparks’ Ridership Boom on Skyway

Started by Metro Jacksonville, April 15, 2014, 11:55:01 AM

Ocklawaha

Quote from: thelakelander on April 23, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on April 23, 2014, 10:02:07 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on April 23, 2014, 07:38:01 PM
2. Newnan to Beaver will get you to the sports district/Eastside just as easily without the traffic.

except that Beaver doesn't go that far....It stops at Washington...perhaps you meant Duval.

Ock has a long time dream of seeing streetcars going down Beaver, along with a new bridge over McCoys Creek.

Quote from: Ocklawaha on April 23, 2014, 07:38:01 PM
I'm not a fan of streetcar on Bay Street as:

1. It is a main arterial
2. Newnan to Beaver will get you to the sports district/Eastside just as easily without the traffic.
3. A Beaver street east extension also lines you up seamlessly with the F&J which is a city owned right-of-way all the way  to Gateway.

Not that I care whether it goes down Bay, Adams, Duval, etc., but Forsyth and Adams are just as much "arterials" on that end of downtown as Bay.  Probably even moreso, outside of game days, as they form the connection between I-95 and the Hart Bridge...





BEAVER! There is a common opinion that 'STREETcars' must run in a street, but the reality is you don't want them there if there is any way to avoid it. In Little Rock they use long sections of the sidewalk! In Dallas most sections are curb divided. Turning east on Beaver gives you an E-W street that is pretty free of traffic anytime but signal protected. Run off the east end of Beaver and the railroad track becomes exclusive transit territory not effected by auto traffic. On the map this little trail through the woods and across Hogan's Creek is still Beaver Street right-of-way. At the ½ way point to the Arena garage it passes alongside (just to the south) of the Arlington Expressway bridge over the old F&J/Southern Railroad yards behind Maxwell House. So any extension into the northside along right-of-way already city owned would be a snap and never encounter that heavy State/Union street traffic feeding into the Arlington Expressway. The old F&J joins the former 'S' line in Springfield Yard, then continues NW straight into Gateway. Beyond the Expressway bridge you'd have a choice to turn back south behind the garage, on Randolph or beyond. I just guess I have that dream because of the 10,000 times I've studied that 'get to the Sports District/Eastside/Fairfield problem.