The End of State Road 9A

[Steve]

I don't see that happening - the area is not walkable at all, and I don't see 9A from Phillips to Butler being a big rail corridor.  There are actual walkable areas of the city that are not served by transit today.

[CRAIG B]

Mabe thay can use the median for rail ?

Now that Beloki is a freaking great idea. A fast rail transit to the shopping center. Maybe all the shops can get together to pay for it. HA! Now I made a funny joke. but that would be a good idea. If the shops want the money make them install it.

[Timkin]

In Orlando they call SR 408  simply, The 408.. I guess we could rename JTB  the 202 =)

[reednavy]

It is tolled so it is more recognizable than its working name, East-West Expressway. I have yet to see East-West Expressway on any sign out there, all it is the typical FL state route signage, just with TOLL above it.

[Jason]

The "East-West" is labled as such on I4. 

[JeffreyS]

Why can't we call the whole thing 295 isn't that what it is?

[kBasarab]

Back to the post about Racetrack and 95 there will never be an interchange at that location as St. Johns County decided to put a rest area in and that rest area is too close to Race Track for an interchange.

The 9B plans (at least from a couple years ago) actually show Race Track being rerouted south some and being in a large intersection with 9B that would quickly link into 95.  Almost like Phillips gets you to 9A to 95 easily. 

[Jason]

^ You're right about the DOT not wanting an interchange there because of their shiny new rest area.  It just seems like a much more logical and cost effective solution, even at the expense of a rest area.  9B will definitely help the residents in that area, however, an interchange will do the same thing much cheaper and save thousands of acres of wetlands and woodlands from development.  9B's route does nothing but open up more land in northern St. Johns and southern Duval to more sprawling development.

[copperfiend]

^ You're right about the DOT not wanting an interchange there because of their shiny new rest area.  It just seems like a much more logical and cost effective solution, even at the expense of a rest area.  9B will definitely help the residents in that area, however, an interchange will do the same thing much cheaper and save thousands of acres of wetlands and woodlands from development.  9B's route does nothing but open up more land in northern St. Johns and southern Duval to more sprawling development.

So. The area couldn't use more Pulte townhomes, Chili's and Targets?

[thelakelander]

The funny thing is, there's enough room there to build an interchange without ripping out the rest area.  It would have to be a half cloverleaf interchange on the northside of Race Track Road with an additional lane added between the interchange and the rest areas for merging.

[Jason]

Its not the space that is the problem.  The DOT has strict guidlines with regard to development encroachment and vicinity to other establishments with restroom facilities.

[thelakelander]

Must be new.  The Seminole County rest stop is just north of the 434/I-4 interchange in Altamonte and that area has been built up for over +20 years.

[Jason]

Good point.  I can't find the article that talked about their development giudlines.

Wasn't the Marietta rest area on I-10 closed due to its close vicinity to other private facilities and development encroachment?

[Charles Hunter]

If you go out I-10, it looks like the new Branan Field-Chaffee Road (and there's another road needing a new name*) interchange is right on top of the westbound side of the rest area, and it looks like the ramps will extend very near the old eastbound location.


* but once the state gets a contractor to build the outer beltway and complete Branan Field-Chaffee Road, as a toll road, it may get a new name

[2Qwick]

Especially when those wetlands are directly behind your house.  By my judgments the residents in the back of Bartram Springs (that back to Citi/Gran Bay area) will have 9B in their back yard.  Has anyone else noticed this?

^ You're right about the DOT not wanting an interchange there because of their shiny new rest area.  It just seems like a much more logical and cost effective solution, even at the expense of a rest area.  9B will definitely help the residents in that area, however, an interchange will do the same thing much cheaper and save thousands of acres of wetlands and woodlands from development.  9B's route does nothing but open up more land in northern St. Johns and southern Duval to more sprawling development.