Global Cities. What are they? What is Jacksonville?

Started by stephendare, March 25, 2008, 10:57:23 AM

Ocklawaha

Based on San Antonio and Oklahoma City, of which we are at least equals, I'd call it a 1A on this list. Watch RandMcNally as they don't like us. Clue? After consolidation RandMcNally refused (and still does) to place our City limits out and color the city in Yellow. When OKC consolidated they had no trouble moving those city limits on every map... and I'm telling you there ain't nothing but cow pattys in most of it! I wrote them a nice letter and got a nasty gram back on this very subject. I suggested they had PERHAPS made an oversight with Jacksonville. That nasty letter I got back was amazing for a consumer based business and basically told me to take a $&*#&*@(* in a rolling donut.

OCKLAWAHA

thelakelander

Looking at the list, I'd move San Antonio and Oklahoma City down a notch before I'd bump Jax up to 1-A status.  There's a huge difference between places like Denver, San Diego, Seattle and Jacksonville.  I love our city and its potential but we are not on a level of equal footing with these places.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Keith-N-Jax

Jacksonville can not be mentioned in the same sentence with those cities.

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on December 02, 2008, 01:23:55 AM
Jacksonville can not be mentioned in the same sentence with those cities.

How bout: "Jacksonville aint no Denver, San Diego, or Seattle."  ;D

JaguarReign

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A big problem is that Jacksonville has to compete with so many cities on the list and the fact that Orlando somehow has some counties in its Metro area which should be in the Jacksonville's, mainly Flagler and Putnam Counties. Orlando is a city with about 120,000 but a metro area of over 2,000,000. That is just ridiculous. Plus, here in Hawaii when I tell people I'm form Jacksonville, they immediately ask, "North carolina?" I will usually become annoyed and say that no I'm from the Jacksonville in Florida, the only big city Jacksonville. While those people are pretty stupid, I think until we are the only Jacksonville widely known, we can not be considered with many of those global cities.   

Keith-N-Jax

I think the majority of people now do know where Jacksonville, Fl is. Those that dont are probably the ones that think coconut plams, mangos, and warm weather is a norm t/o the whole state.

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: JaguarReign on December 02, 2008, 04:05:33 AM
A big problem is that Jacksonville has to compete with so many cities on the list and the fact that Orlando somehow has some counties in its Metro area which should be in the Jacksonville's, mainly Flagler and Putnam Counties. Orlando is a city with about 120,000 but a metro area of over 2,000,000. That is just ridiculous. Plus, here in Hawaii when I tell people I'm form Jacksonville, they immediately ask, "North carolina?" I will usually become annoyed and say that no I'm from the Jacksonville in Florida, the only big city Jacksonville. While those people are pretty stupid, I think until we are the only Jacksonville widely known, we can not be considered with many of those global cities.   

Yeah, I tend to use this as a good rule of thumb. A city reaches a certain level of prominence when its recognized by its name alone, and need not be followed by state or country of location.

Side note: I wonder...is Jacksonville a nice name? A foreign friend of mine said "Jacksonville" just sounds like a boring name, while "Tampa," "Orlando," and "Miami" all sound like cool places. I don't think it ultimately matters...a name is just that and, more than anything, I think it's the city that makes the name cool or not. But still, just curious if there could be a negative perception just from the sound.

RiversideGator

I have often thought that if the city was named "Jackson" only it might sound a little more dignified.  A city with "ville" on the end just sounds like a small town, regardless of the reality of the situation.

MattnJax

Quote from: RiversideGator on December 03, 2008, 11:08:13 PM
I have often thought that if the city was named "Jackson" only it might sound a little more dignified.  A city with "ville" on the end just sounds like a small town, regardless of the reality of the situation.

When I think of Jackson, Mississippi I don't think of dignifed. I think of a bunch of hicks in the capital of a state that still flies the confederate flag. I think a city's name is what the people of that city make of it.

blizz01

What about Nashville or Charlottesville or Greenville? - better yet, Ville de Montreal (Official).  Seems ironic that "Ville" is a French derivative - I'd almost expect a more aristocratic association. Of course, the television series K-Ville won't help things.........

RiversideGator

Quote from: MattnJax on December 03, 2008, 11:49:21 PM
Quote from: RiversideGator on December 03, 2008, 11:08:13 PM
I have often thought that if the city was named "Jackson" only it might sound a little more dignified.  A city with "ville" on the end just sounds like a small town, regardless of the reality of the situation.

When I think of Jackson, Mississippi I don't think of dignifed. I think of a bunch of hicks in the capital of a state that still flies the confederate flag. I think a city's name is what the people of that city make of it.

1.  Who mentioned Jackson, Mississippi?  You could also cite Jackson, Michigan as another American "Jackson" BTW.
2.  Have you ever been to Jackson, Miss?  What makes you think people there are hicks?  Why are you attacking a whole city and its people?
3.  What is wrong with the Confederate flag?

RiversideGator

Quote from: blizz01 on December 04, 2008, 01:00:24 AM
What about Nashville or Charlottesville or Greenville? - better yet, Ville de Montreal (Official).  Seems ironic that "Ville" is a French derivative - I'd almost expect a more aristocratic association. Of course, the television series K-Ville won't help things.........

Good points, blizz.  Perhaps I should rethink the "ville" part of our name.