Miscellaneous semantic commentary about bombing in boston.

Started by bill, April 19, 2013, 11:23:36 AM

Pinky

Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 06:26:53 AM
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Traveller on April 19, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.

Massive difference!

So massive! Adam.  Scuzzzz!  I guess I totally got burned, right?

My bad, actually.  Weve been pretty busy for the past couple of days ramping up our video and on-air projects for metrojacksonville that Ive really only gotten bits and pieces of the still out of focus picture of the two boys.  TV kept repeating Dartmouth, and I didn't really take a moment to look it up.  Just assumed he was a med student at Geisel.

I guess he was just the average run of the mill failure one usually associates with Medical School.

Just for clarity, he was a failure, even at fairly shitty Umass Cambridge:

"The New York Times reported that a college transcript revealed that he was failing many of his college classes. In two semesters in 2012 and 2013, he got seven failing grades, including F's in Principles of Modern Chemistry, Intro American Politics, and Chemistry and the Environment."

Read more: http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/Russian-Boston-Marathon-bombing-suspect-Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-got-Cambridge-scholarship/-/11971628/19813618/-/format/rsss_2.0/-/14blsj0z/-/index.html#ixzz2R0OnnULC

Pinky

Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 08:04:17 AM
Quote from: Pinky on April 20, 2013, 08:00:10 AM
Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 06:26:53 AM
Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Traveller on April 19, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
He attended the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, not Dartmouth College.

Massive difference!

So massive! Adam.  Scuzzzz!  I guess I totally got burned, right?

My bad, actually.  Weve been pretty busy for the past couple of days ramping up our video and on-air projects for metrojacksonville that Ive really only gotten bits and pieces of the still out of focus picture of the two boys.  TV kept repeating Dartmouth, and I didn't really take a moment to look it up.  Just assumed he was a med student at Geisel.

I guess he was just the average run of the mill failure one usually associates with Medical School.

He wasn't in "Medical School"; the kid is 19 and just graduated from high school, so he's an undergrad student.  Medical School, if he made it that far, comes after one finishes a four year degree.

You should definitely send his father a strongly worded email, Pinky. 

You might include the AP on the CC.

Those idiots.

Apparently they lost your contact info.


http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/boston-marathon-explosions/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-a-19-year-old-identified-by-ap-as-boston-marathon-bombing-suspect
QuoteDzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, is identified as the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings and the person arrested in Friday's manhunt.

Tsarnaev's father said his son is an "angel" who was in medical school.

ABC News reported that Tsarnaev was believed to have assault rifles and an assortment of other weapons, including bombs. Authorities were concerned he might try to take hostages, ABC News reported.

Then, just before 9 p.m ET Boston police tweeted, "CAPTURED!!! The hunt is over. The search is done. The terror is over. And justice has won. Suspect in custody."

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was registered as a student at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth and lived in a dormitory there, according to other students. Students there said he was on campus this week after the bombings. The university closed down along with colleges around the Boston area as the search unfolded.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's page on the Russian social networking site Vkontakte says he attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin School, graduating in 2011, the year he won a $2,5000 scholarship from the city of Cambridge, which was celebrated with a reception at City Hall, according to a news release issued at the time.

Cambridge Rindge & Latin School is a highly regarded public school whose alumni include Matt Damon, Ben Affleck and NBA star Patrick Ewing.

Before moving to the United States, he attended School No. 1 in Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan, a predominantly Muslim republic in Russia's North Caucasus that has become an epicenter of the Islamic insurgency that spilled over from Chechnya.

Online, he describes himself as speaking Chechen as well as English and Russian. His world view is described as "Islam" and he says his personal goal is "career and money."

Dzhokhar's father claims his son is a smart and accomplished young man.

Anzor Tsarnaev spoke with The Associated Press by telephone from the Russian city of Makhachkala.

"My son is a true angel," Anzor said. "Dzhokhar is a second-year medical student in the U.S. He is such an intelligent boy. We expected him to come on holidays here."


His father also said that the little jerkoff was "an angel", and that his sons had been "framed", so he's clearly an idiot.  He was also speaking in Russian which was then translated, and clearly doesn't understand the american system of undergrad/graduate higher education, much like you.  The AP was just quoting what he said, which is what journalists do.  Well, *real* ones.

So what's your point?  Are you actually standing by your assertion that this knucklehead was a 19 year old post-graduate medical student at an Ivy League college??


Pinky

Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 08:27:08 AM
Quote from: Pinky on April 20, 2013, 08:21:18 AM
even at fairly shitty Umass Cambridge Dartmouth:


Quotehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Massachusetts_Medical_School

The University of Massachusetts Medical School (UMMS) is one of five campuses of the University of Massachusetts (UMass) system. It is home to three schools: the School of Medicine, the Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, the Graduate School of Nursing; a biomedical research enterprise; and a range of public-service initiatives throughout the state. One of the fastest-growing academic health centers in the country, UMMS is located in Worcester, Massachusetts; other UMass sites are located in Amherst, Boston, Dartmouth and Lowell. UMMS is also known as UMass Worcester.

UMMS is ranked 7th in primary-care education and 48th in research among the United States' 125 medical schools in the 2012 U.S. News & World Report annual guide, "America’s Best Graduate Schools”. UMMS is also a research center. During the past four decades UMMS researchers have made advances in a broad range of disease families, from HIV and infectious diseases to cancer, genetic disorders, diabetes and immune disease. UMMS faculty discovered the link between the immune system and type-1 diabetes, found the genetic cause underlying the third-most-common form of the muscular dystrophies, established the fundamental difference between HIV and other retroviruses and co-discovered RNA interference (RNAi) (a naturally occurring gene-silencing process which has become a tool in research focused on such areas as diabetes, HIV/AIDS and cancer). UMMS scientists are making strides in collaborative efforts to develop vaccines for avian flu, HIV, West Nile virus and rabies.

Wow Pinky, you must have gone to a really good medical school if '7th' is considered 'shitty'.

OMG, you idiot- He wasn't a student at UMMS, he was Undergrad at Umass, and a failing undergrad at that. 

Pinky

Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 08:49:19 AM
Quote from: Pinky on April 20, 2013, 08:33:52 AM

OMG, you idiot- He wasn't a student at UMMS, he was Undergrad at Umass, and a failing undergrad at that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Massachusetts_Medical_School

The University of Massachusetts Medical School (UMMS) is one of five campuses of the University of Massachusetts (UMass) system. It is home to three schools: the School of Medicine, the Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, the Graduate School of Nursing; a biomedical research enterprise; and a range of public-service initiatives throughout the state. One of the fastest-growing academic health centers in the country, UMMS is located in Worcester, Massachusetts; other UMass sites are located in Amherst, Boston, Dartmouth and Lowell. UMMS is also known as UMass Worcester.

Also, you might include wikipedia in your list of strongly worded emails to be sent out.

those idiots seem to thing that UMMS is one of five campuses of the UMass system.  Which you just described as 'shitty', regardless of whether or not the bomber was an undergraduate or not.

Quote"Just for clarity, he was a failure, even at fairly shitty Umass Cambridge:"

For some reason, The UMass Website seems to agree with them.

http://www.umassmed.edu/index.aspx

Good Lord, the world is just chock full of idiots this morning.

fyi.  The AP confirmed that he was enrolled at UMass Dartmouth, hence my suggestion that you email them.

I misspoke; Cambridge was the high school he attended.  That still doesn't change the fact that you persist (and insist) in being wrong about almost every assertion you've made on this topic. 

buckethead

Was he a Red Sox fan? If the answer to this question is yes, then I believe their father is right.

I watched a silly little flick titled "fever pitch" featuring Drew Barrymore and Jimmy Fallon in homage to Boston as I remember it.

It's fantastic.

A Sox fan would never do such a thing. (Yankee toilet paper seems to be the height of depravity for their ilk)

Q: Why do turrists never bomb hockey games?

carpnter

Quote from: Adam W on April 19, 2013, 02:25:58 PM
Quote from: bill on April 19, 2013, 02:05:51 PM
Quote from: stephendare on April 19, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League

QuoteThe Ivy League is an athletic conference composed of sports teams from eight private institutions of higher education in the Northeastern United States. The conference name is also commonly used to refer to those eight schools as a group.[2] The eight institutions are Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, Princeton University, the University of Pennsylvania, and Yale University. The term Ivy League also has connotations of academic excellence, selectivity in admissions, and social elitism.

and wrong again Inspector Gadget. Could you try and get one thing correct?

You might find things start to disappear.

Things didn't disappear, they just were extracted from the old thread and moved to a new thread. Yet the post that started the whole thing only appears as a quote in the first post of this new thread. 

buckethead

You did we'll enough, except for the knee jerk reactionary claim of right wing nut job teabaggers he'll bent on killing people of color and destroying the poor. Well, I expounded a bit, but you get the point.

So I'm saying, you're right, but your wrong.

As I read it (which could be very wrong) your first thought was "Teabaggers" (Or perhaps some other "Don't Tread On Me" faction). Also, the initial thought of the rank and file teabagger was likely "Muslims".

Both of which, turned out to be wrong, even if the bizarre official story line turns out to be what really happened. (You know I'm one of those gutter dwelling conspiracy theorists) (my initial thought was "Goddammit, these fuckers are at it again!)

So now that I claimed that they weren't Muslims, some of our revered posters will need to have a go at me. Bring it.

buckethead

I may be unaware of the factions you mention. My limited experience with the younger anti gov conspiracy theorist archetype is that they are pro gay (more accurately pro freedom of choice) and not really anti tax. More anti government (read:corporate) coercion via the violent use of force.

BridgeTroll

Harris, Klebold, Weise, Talovic, Cho, Hawkins, Kazmier­czak, Lough­ner, Holmes, Lanza, and now these two...

QuoteBut there is a growing group of early to mid 20s radicalized mostly male zealots, armed with copies of Ayn Rand and a fond belief that they are 'libertarians' who are increasingly ramping up the rhetoric.

Hmm... they are all certainly teens or twenty somethings...  ???
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

On a happier note... and you heard it here first..........................

I predict a small baby boom 9 months from now in Watertown...  8)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

Quote from: stephendare on April 20, 2013, 11:58:19 AM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on April 20, 2013, 11:53:44 AM
On a happier note... and you heard it here first..........................

I predict a small baby boom 9 months from now in Watertown...  8)

lol

marathon babies

"Lockdown babies" may be more accurate.  Cant go to work, cant go to school, cant go outside... hmmm... what oh what can we do to pass the time...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."