Live Blog: Revised Mobility Fee Moratorium

Started by TheCat, April 08, 2013, 03:53:12 PM

vicupstate

I basically agree that MOST of the time being on the losing end of a 17-1 vote is not worth the cost in the long run.  That said, Stephen is right in that there are certain times when a lone or minority dissent is the right thing to do, both morally and politically.  It can be hard to walk that tight rope.

As for the moratorium, Boyer is NOT your enemy, she is your friend and you need to put your firepower toward those that TRULY oppose your efforts.  There are 'hills to die on', but in this case I think she did the right thing.
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sheclown

#76
What if Metrojacksonville raised funds for candidates who supported the mobility fee and other urban core and transit issues?

We have time.  Think pub crawls.

At the very least for the urban core seats.

When Kenneth's house was in danger of collapse and demolition was threatened, the Springfield community raised $1000.00 in 24 hours to stabilize his house.  Surely, the MJ community could raise enough to impact the next election.

Jumpinjack

There are many times when a judge or high level administrator asks what was the vote for or against this measure. When they hear that there was no dissent or it was mild and muted, it makes a difference in their opinion of the importance to the community.

sheclown

Quote from: Jumpinjack on April 11, 2013, 07:16:13 AM
There are many times when a judge or high level administrator asks what was the vote for or against this measure. When they hear that there was no dissent or it was mild and muted, it makes a difference in their opinion of the importance to the community.

I agree.  Political capital aside.  There should be a HELL NO button to push.

Cheshire Cat

Meanwhile, permitting for home building is up.  Daniel Davis of the N.E. Florida builders comments on the growth in the following article.

http://jacksonville.com/business/2013-04-15/story/northeast-florida-building-permits-continue-rise

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Northeast Florida building permits continue to rise
Posted: April 15, 2013 - 6:10pm

By Roger Bull   

Building permits for single-family homes continued to be issued at rates well above the past few years.

According to the Northeast Florida Builders Association, 562 permits were issued in the four-county area in March. That’s more than 200 above March totals for the past two years and makes it the busiest March since 2007.

For the first three months of the year, 1,397 permits have been issues, compared to 838 last year and 644 in 2011.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

thelakelander

#80
Definitely a different tune than when he showed up at council begging for subsidies to help put starving construction workers back to work.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Cheshire Cat

Isn't it though!  This is what makes it nearly impossible to believe what guys like him say when promoting an issue that benefits their own interests. 
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

JeffreyS

Well at least we know what was so funny that the developers were laughing at after the Mobility Fee giveaway. The joke was the dopes on the City Council.
Lenny Smash

Cheshire Cat

Quote from: stephendare on April 15, 2013, 09:53:51 PM
Quote from: Cheshire Cat on April 15, 2013, 09:46:24 PM
Isn't it though!  This is what makes it nearly impossible to believe what guys like him say when promoting an issue that benefits their own interests.

Lets just compromise on the issue, Diane.  If we don't just agree that he was actually telling the truth in both cases, its always possible that he might be mean to us later, you know.
Hehehehe, that is quite true Stephen. :)
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

sheclown

Quote from: Cheshire Cat on April 15, 2013, 09:31:27 PM
Meanwhile, permitting for home building is up.  Daniel Davis of the N.E. Florida builders comments on the growth in the following article.

http://jacksonville.com/business/2013-04-15/story/northeast-florida-building-permits-continue-rise

Quote
Northeast Florida building permits continue to rise
Posted: April 15, 2013 - 6:10pm

By Roger Bull   

Building permits for single-family homes continued to be issued at rates well above the past few years.

According to the Northeast Florida Builders Association, 562 permits were issued in the four-county area in March. That’s more than 200 above March totals for the past two years and makes it the busiest March since 2007.

For the first three months of the year, 1,397 permits have been issues, compared to 838 last year and 644 in 2011.


He was practically in tears -- and what about Clark's roofer? 

Job's bill.

thelakelander

Press him and he'll probably claim rising permit activity is a result of the mobility fee moratorium.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

sheclown

“My informal survey of all of our members makes me optimistic,” said Daniel Davis, executive director of the association. “They’re saying they’re busy. We just need to make sure that we have good, solid sustainable growth.”

It’s important, he said, that the industry doesn’t build more homes than the economy can absorb.


Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/business/real-estate/2013-04-15/story/northeast-florida-building-permits-continue-rise#ixzz2QcnTlRmL

sheclown

This most likely explains the push for the vote on the moratorium -- didn't want the March figures to come out and show how healthy the industry really is.


sheclown

#89
Quote from: thelakelander on April 16, 2013, 07:25:53 AM
Press him and he'll probably claim rising permit activity is a result of the mobility fee moratorium.

Except that this was not the plea he made with hangs clasped together -- PLEASE SAVE THE LITTLE GUYS WHO ARE STARVING.

And Clark's roofer who cries himself to sleep at night.