TU does not want USS Charles F. Adams Downtown

gatorback · March 14, 2008, 10:49:14 PM

no. sorry. have you been to one of these things JS? There's one in Boston, I forget its name but there's 1 weekend a year that it's frequented by attraction goers and that is Halloween; however the crowd is lack luster at best given everybody in new england heads to Salem, MA for obvious reasons.

Ocklawaha · March 14, 2008, 11:30:15 PM

No ship? No museum? We'll only visit on halloween? Oh the lack of creativity here...

Let's go for a carrier and set her next to the old Southside Generating plant property of JEA. Hell, let's get a short one, a "Geep carrier" from WWII or Korea that is now used for Marine Choppers. Let's set us a small base around it like a WWII camp. Jeeps, tanks, equipment, buildings housing our shipyard history. Toss in a narrow gauge "goverment railroad" to tour the base and docks. Give us a fighter base with a 300' runway, in a palm jungle, set a corsair in there, and a wildcat, and pby... Get a Zero mock up from the disney ride makers that always seems to be in crash and burn mode. Make the whole park a cross between the base on Bah, Bah Black sheep, MASH, Iwo Jima. Don't just stick another ship out by a dock, for GODS SAKE, give her the glory she deserves. Toss in the support... Wouldn't you love to have your photo taken with Halsey? What if you could enter a building on base and be on the bridge of the IJN flagship as Yamamoto says, "All we have done is awakened a sleeping tiger and filled it with a terrible resolve..."

This should be more then another floating piece of gray steel, rather I want to smell the copra, taste the 3% beer, see the daily 3:38 pm bomb run of washing machine charlie, Let's talk about it over chow in the mess hall...

More then a ship, if we built America's theme park - a living museum of WWII, money would pour in from around the world to support memorials, and build displays... Don't believe it? Have you SEEN the Imperial War Museum? If we fail in this mission, and I don't see you again, we'll meet at the Yasukuni Shrine.

Ocklawaha

Jason · March 17, 2008, 09:20:56 AM

"I love the smell of napalm in the morning!"

Ocklawaha · March 17, 2008, 09:30:35 AM

It works best when their's some sort of beef on the BBQ.

Hey, there's another shop in our "Be in WWII for a day Theme Park". Good old deep fried fingers, or rare ribs cooked over a flash flame of jellied petro...ummm good.

Ocklawaha

gatorback · March 17, 2008, 11:58:51 AM

Quote from: Ocklawaha on March 14, 2008, 11:30:15 PM
No ship? No museum? We'll only visit on halloween? Oh the lack of creativity here...

Let's go for a carrier and set her next to the old Southside Generating plant property of JEA. Hell, let's get a short one, a "Geep carrier" from WWII or Korea that is now used for Marine Choppers. Let's set us a small base around it like a WWII camp. Jeeps, tanks, equipment, buildings housing our shipyard history. Toss in a narrow gauge "goverment railroad" to tour the base and docks. Give us a fighter base with a 300' runway, in a palm jungle, set a corsair in there, and a wildcat, and pby... Get a Zero mock up from the disney ride makers that always seems to be in crash and burn mode. Make the whole park a cross between the base on Bah, Bah Black sheep, MASH, Iwo Jima. Don't just stick another ship out by a dock, for GODS SAKE, give her the glory she deserves. Toss in the support... Wouldn't you love to have your photo taken with Halsey? What if you could enter a building on base and be on the bridge of the IJN flagship as Yamamoto says, "All we have done is awakened a sleeping tiger and filled it with a terrible resolve..."

This should be more then another floating piece of gray steel, rather I want to smell the copra, taste the 3% beer, see the daily 3:38 pm bomb run of washing machine charlie, Let's talk about it over chow in the mess hall...

More then a ship, if we built America's theme park - a living museum of WWII, money would pour in from around the world to support memorials, and build displays... Don't believe it? Have you SEEN the Imperial War Museum? If we fail in this mission, and I don't see you again, we'll meet at the Yasukuni Shrine.

Ocklawaha

Alright, if the attraction was huge with rides, then I'd go for it. I had no idea it could be like that!

thelakelander · March 17, 2008, 01:35:35 PM

Quote from: gatorback on March 13, 2008, 11:14:43 PM
that's what I've been saying for like 2 entire pages of posts here. Just doesn't seem safe. Sorry.

The location would be just about the same as Battleship Cove (home of the USS Massachusetts) in Fall River, MA, near I-195.
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

thelakelander · March 17, 2008, 01:43:44 PM

As for blocking views. Here's an image of what the ship will look like, placed next to the Acosta Bridge.

Jason · March 17, 2008, 01:50:03 PM

That hardly blocks any views. The readers who sent letters to the TU must own a boat docked at the adjacent marina and would hate for their "yacht" to be dwarfed by a Navy ship. Doesn't make for good bragging rights, ya know?!

downtownparks · March 17, 2008, 02:05:13 PM

Gator, Im not sure when you went to see the Constitution, and the WWII destroyer next to it, but every time I have been there, its been busy as hell with school groups and tourists. Also, the only people who go to Salem is the tourists, most people from mass know that the witch trials actually occurred in what is now known as Marblehead (among other places)

Consider for a moment that MOSH has school groups almost every day. How cool would it be for them to do a morning at MOSH, lunch in friendship park, and then a couple of hours on the Adams... It would be a great local spot for school groups, as well as tourists when they come downtown.

gatorback · March 17, 2008, 04:00:13 PM

Ok. I like the idea now for the kids as the do kids enjoy the ships I agree. It would be something I suppose. As for Salem, all the real cool young adults go to Salem for fright night and party their you know whats off.

jeh1980 · March 18, 2008, 03:02:27 PM

Quote from: Steve on March 12, 2008, 10:05:52 AM
I completely disagree as well - it's almost like they wrote this editorial before they realized it was only four stories high. The Aetna Building is like 20, Two Prudential is 21, and Riverplace is 27. Is it going to overshadow anything.

These guys at the T-U don't get connectivity. If you put it at Mayport, how will it help anything?

I totally disagree, too. I would like to see that ship to make its home downtown. We certainly need more attactions there than what we are trying to offer.

stephenc · March 18, 2008, 03:12:07 PM

Ya know that is the only place that I can think of that won't obstruct the view of the river from the office buildings without it being to far from the core. Maybe that's why its shoved in next to the acosta instead a place with more space and possible room for expansion. IE: Maritime or Military Museum.

blizz01 · September 18, 2008, 10:12:21 AM

What's going on with this - any updates?

Beloki · September 18, 2008, 10:47:42 AM

Why not open a big Navy museum and have 2 or 3 of these ships in the middle of the St Johns river. For a little extra charge a watertaxi will bring you from the Navy museum to the ships!
How about between the Hart en Downtown bridge?? Doesn't block any views and would be a great tourist attraction.

apvbguy · September 18, 2008, 11:04:09 AM

Quote from: Beloki on September 18, 2008, 10:47:42 AM
Why not open a big Navy museum and have 2 or 3 of these ships in the middle of the St Johns river. For a little extra charge a watertaxi will bring you from the Navy museum to the ships!
How about between the Hart en Downtown bridge?? Doesn't block any views and would be a great tourist attraction.

it's a nice feel good idea but it seems like every podunk town has a battleship, aircraft carrier, submarine open as a "museum" what could be done to make one here in JAX unique and able draw visitors?

TU does not want USS Charles F. Adams Downtown

downtownparks