Mayor Brown to Invest $9 Million in Downtown

[Cheshire Cat]

Tacachale, You are right about the red tape and the overall functioning of the processes in this city that surround investment and expenditures.  ROI however is something that we need to pursue in order to stop doing what we have done in the past and throw good money after bad without seeing the promised "sunrise" for downtown or the city when we do.

Ennis, I would enjoy a coffee on Valentines day.  I never pass up spending time with a bright and handsome young man.  lol 

[thelakelander]

Valentines Day it is.

[tufsu1]

^ big spender

[Ocklawaha]

Freeway miles per 1,000 Cities with the most freeway miles.

1. Kansas City â€" 1.262
2. St Louis â€" 1.070
3. Houston â€" .822
4. Cleveland â€" .816
5. Columbus â€" .779
6. San Antonio â€" .759
7. Jacksonville â€" .745

Least walkable American cities.

Top 10 Least Walkable U.S. Cities

1. Jacksonville
2. Nashville
3. Charlotte
4. Indianapolis
5. Oklahoma City
6. Memphis
7. Kansas City

It's OBVIOUS, we need more roads.

[Garden guy]

Maybe we could use the money to buy FBC and then maybe and we would get our city back..lol..ah the dreams a modern city...but itll never happen with FBC and its brainwashersbrainwashers

[PeeJayEss]

Maybe we could use the money to buy FBC and then maybe and we would get our city back..lol..ah the dreams a modern city...but itll never happen with FBC and its brainwashersbrainwashers

<yawn>

[fsujax]

Maybe we could use the money to buy FBC and then maybe and we would get our city back..lol..ah the dreams a modern city...but itll never happen with FBC and its brainwashersbrainwashers

you and ubben should start your own church, the blame, hate FBC congregation. It seems that's all you two ever post about.

[duvaldude08]

Maybe we could use the money to buy FBC and then maybe and we would get our city back..lol..ah the dreams a modern city...but itll never happen with FBC and its brainwashersbrainwashers

OMG. WHAT does that have to do with anything. Dude your a psyco

[Captain Zissou]

Maybe we could use the money to buy FBC and then maybe and we would get our city back..lol..ah the dreams a modern city...but itll never happen with FBC and its brainwashersbrainwashers

That is largely moronic, but FBC will have to play ball for those blocks of DT to see life. 

Mack Brunson seems to be a decent and intelligent man.  He also claims to be best friends with the pastor from the Potter's House.  The Potter's House transformed their neighborhood by taking a blighted mall and turning it into an area of activity and entertainment for their congregation and the community at large.  Everyone here has probably eaten at Soul Food Bistro and everyone probably loved it.  I think that Mack could be made to see the light in terms of embracing downtown rather than fortifying themselves against it.  I would be interested in helping to get a private audience with him to see if he could be persuaded to develop part of their property to address the street and provide something for the downtown public.

[thelakelander]

^Definitely agree.  We should be looking for ways to better integrate FBC into downtown as Potter's House has done with Normandy.

[tufsu1]

here...I'll help you...Latitude 30 (the old library) and Laura St Trio...and perhaps a little property known as the Bostwick Building

forgot one...some interesting foundation issues have crept up as part of the Chamber building renovations....perhaps they could use some additional $

[bill]

I always cringe when I read that government is "investing money." Government doesn't invest anything; they spend money. Call it what it is. 

Correct-they spend other peoples money

[bill]

I always cringe when I read that government is "investing money." Government doesn't invest anything; they spend money. Call it what it is. 

Correct-they spend other peoples money

More correctly, we spend the money that we decide to tax ourselves, on projects that we feel are worth funding.

If you don't think that government spending is an investment in the economy, try running your business without the public roads.

More correctly, 50% of the people, that do not pay taxes decide where the the government "invests" my income. Usually in their own pocket

[tufsu1]

I always cringe when I read that government is "investing money." Government doesn't invest anything; they spend money. Call it what it is. 

Correct-they spend other peoples money

More correctly, we spend the money that we decide to tax ourselves, on projects that we feel are worth funding.

If you don't think that government spending is an investment in the economy, try running your business without the public roads.

More correctly, 50% of the people, that do not pay taxes decide where the the government "invests" my income. Usually in their own pocket

nice line...but wrong!

that's 47% of the country that doesn't pay FEDERAL income taxes because their INCOME is too low....but just about everyone pays taxes (be it social security/medicare, gas taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc.)

and since we'tre talking about Duval County spending here, the gas tax, sales tax, and property tax apply...as well as taxes on utilities.

[bill]

I always cringe when I read that government is "investing money." Government doesn't invest anything; they spend money. Call it what it is. 

Correct-they spend other peoples money

More correctly, we spend the money that we decide to tax ourselves, on projects that we feel are worth funding.

If you don't think that government spending is an investment in the economy, try running your business without the public roads.

More correctly, 50% of the people, that do not pay taxes decide where the the government "invests" my income. Usually in their own pocket

what a bizarre and completely dishonest statement.  Are you under the impression that children under the age of 16 and senior citizens who have paid their forty years of income taxes and are now retired are either investing your money or making decisions about your income?

You should move to alaska my friend.  They have milliions of unimproved, untaxed acres of land just waiting for guys like you to get out and rough it like the rugged anti tax titan that you apparently imagine yourself.

Darelys argument handbook. When you have a indefensible narrative

Step 1-pick strawmen

See children and senior citizens