Live Blogging: Mellow Mushroom & Historic Preservation Comittee

[simms3]

What are the tweaks

Most of the discussion was around the open seating area facing Ingleside.  HPC wanted to eliminate one of the openings facing Ingleside, but MM countered that state smoking-area regs required them.  Solution was to require openable windows in that area instead of just big openings.  Beside that it was just minor stuff like requiring them to build a new wall in the rear of the parking area in the event that the existing wall (on the adjacent property) ever comes down, and preferring brick or stucco on the building exterior instead of the stone MM spec'd. 

We all know what this means.  RAP has forced MM to build a bland stucco or bland modern brick structure that does not fit in whatsoever.

Also the whole bit about FL smoking regulations and having openable windows...talk about a state that is really far behind the times on smoking laws.  Either it's an 18 & up establishment in jurisdictions elsewhere that still allow smoking in certain places (I remember being carded my freshman year in college at a restaurant because it allowed smoking on its deck) or smoking is banned plain and simple.  I guess in FL all you need is to be able to open the windows and you can smoke?  Eww

[Captain Zissou]

^ The garage allows smoking in their front bar, but the walls are completely comprised of windows that are continuously left open during operating hours.  I don't love that smoking is allowed in there, but with the circulation it isn't that bad.  I don't know how many people will actually smoke at MM, but open windows will make the space better either way. 

I agree with Simms in regard to Stucco and Brick vs Stone.  What is historic or architectually significant about Stucco?  I think it is boring and bland and it stinks of a southside strip mall.  Stone with some nice detailwork on the crown and around doors would have been a great way to improve the strip.  This just shows another way that the city is trying to make MM fail, but in the end it is still going to do well despite looking like crap.

[mtraininjax]

Wow, did Mellow Mushroom change their menu and start selling ambiance by the stucco or brick? I don't care if its a food truck, if its good, I'll take a bite of it.  Forget the ambiance, just get the damned thing open!

Also the whole bit about FL smoking regulations and having openable windows...talk about a state that is really far behind the times on smoking laws.  Either it's an 18 & up establishment in jurisdictions elsewhere that still allow smoking in certain places (I remember being carded my freshman year in college at a restaurant because it allowed smoking on its deck) or smoking is banned plain and simple.  I guess in FL all you need is to be able to open the windows and you can smoke?  Eww

We all know about the Utopia that resides in Atlanta, GA. Stop reminding us. 

[Pinky]

<SNIP>

RAP does a lot of good in our community, and nothing is torn down yet, if John wants to tear down the gas station, that is on HIM, to do so. His local franchise owns the gas station, its his choice. No one is forcing him to tear down the gas station, again free will here folks!

I can't figure out if you're being serious, like, you actually believe the batshitcrazy things you write, or if you're goofing around...?  Is it like a Borat-kinda-thing, theater of the absurd, like satire or something??  Because really, no reasonable person could ever manage the level of cognitive dissonance associated with statements like this.  I mean, this isn't a difference of subjective opinion, this is a willful disregard of clearly established fact and in its place a total substitution of complete and utter falsehoods.  It's bizarre.

Mellow Mushrooms original plan was to reuse the existing gas station building.  They filed site plans to begin that process, and your pals at WLA objected and obstructed, forcing Mellow to tear down that building and build a new structure.  The pending demolition of the gas station is 100% WLA and RAP's doing. 

[Timkin]

See I wish this could be stopped.   The Gas station needs a facelift. its not a dump.  Very Structurally sound and could be an amazing space for a restaurant.

A similar Gas Station was converted to an Al's Pizza at the Beaches, and that place WAS a dump when they started on it.

It may be too late,but  WLA and RAP  are forcing the demolition of a structure that DOES NOT NEED TO GO!!

This is not on John , M-train.  and I'm not picking a fight here but you have stated it is a dump.

If this decision can be reversed, I think it should be. That old Shell station is cool, especially the ceilings of it.

Control freaks trying to muzzle competition out of a neighborhood.    How Mayberry!   

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

<SNIP>

RAP does a lot of good in our community, and nothing is torn down yet, if John wants to tear down the gas station, that is on HIM, to do so. His local franchise owns the gas station, its his choice. No one is forcing him to tear down the gas station, again free will here folks!

I can't figure out if you're being serious, like, you actually believe the batshitcrazy things you write, or if you're goofing around...?  Is it like a Borat-kinda-thing, theater of the absurd, like satire or something??  Because really, no reasonable person could ever manage the level of cognitive dissonance associated with statements like this.  I mean, this isn't a difference of subjective opinion, this is a willful disregard of clearly established fact and in its place a total substitution of complete and utter falsehoods.  It's bizarre.

Ahhhhh, just check the 3AM time-stamp Pinky.... sounds like the scotch talking.   Mmmmmmm, Scotch.