Jacksonville Jaguars vs Minesota Vikings

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

But when u read the TU commentator...it's mostly negative about the team..

Commentors on the TU are always negative about everything. This is a certain group of them that makes the same comments over and over again. Green Hornet ring a bell?

Hahaha, it's a daily fucking battle with those two, Green Hornet and Stinkfist.  I enjoy it though, until I'm ready to punch a hole in my monitor.

[duvaldude08]

^ agree.

Anyways, we played like a team with a winning record. We didn't embarrass ourselves. Tons of players are looking up (Lewis, Blackmun, Robinson, MJD, Gabbert). Considering the injuries on D and the weird O line shit, great game. Can't wait until next week.

How low are the expectations now that "We didn't embarrass ourselves" is a positive comment.  Gabbert looked okay.  Defense looked pretty bad at times.   Everyone has injuries and if ours are crippling in the 1st week wait until week 12.  Hope they improve.  Early in the season everything can change.

Its not about having "low expectation" its about being realstic. Compared to the comedy show they put on last year, they played some exciting football. If you expected them to come in and play like an elite team, then you need to wake up. Del Rio left this team in a complete mess. Murlkey and the coaching staff have gone over and beyond to work with what they have and make things better.  Sure we can go and nick pick every little thing that didnt go right. Im sure some of the best team have things they can nick pick about as well. But Im not going to downplay the progress they have made. And Gabbert had a QB rating of 96.1, that is far from okay. Defense looked great, secondary just broke down in the second half. Dont know you to well, but I refuseto let anyone come in downing the team when they are doing better. They are busting their ass. You can keep all that to yourself.

Why the Jaguars send out the secondary unit of the Defense during the 2nd half? I must have missed something? Did the key players in the primary unit of the Defense got injured?

-Josh

Josh the secondary are the pass defense players that are in the backfield (Corner Backs,etc etc) They were all starters, expect for one or two. Our starting CB is still injuried.

[British Shoe Company]

It's going to be a long year for both teams!

[duvaldude08]

It's going to be a long year for both teams!

And then theres you 

[mtraininjax]

But when u read the TU commentator...it's mostly negative about the team..

Yeah, its all roses out here on the MJ board! 

Frenette had it right today in the paper, in my opinion.

Jack

[Keith-N-Jax]

This team is still several drafts away( thats if they hit) from being a true contender. All team have injuries, but what I saw was alot of what we saw last year just slightly better. Its going to be another long year..

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

This team is still several drafts away( thats if they hit) from being a true contender. All team have injuries, but what I saw was alot of what we saw last year just slightly better. Its going to be another long year..

Disagree. 

Our offense looks very much improved.  Our defense is the essentially the same that is returning from last year.  I'm not going to agree that we're still 'several' drafts away.  We can win now, with who we have, but we won't do it unless all 3 phases are clicking together. 

Offense, Defense & Special Teams.

It's hard to believe, but our D & Special teams gave that game away.  And to me at least, that's a good thing - it's doesn't need that much fixing as much as it needs a kick in the ass.  Middleton is a liability.  Yobouty could be getting a call soon.  I haven't paid attention to Ross, but seems as though he's not playing up to par.  Cox is in a contract year, as is Mathis - they better get their asses on the field so they can make that next pay check. 

Horrible call to end the game - I don't even think that Gabbert looked at another reciever, 5 steps and out came the ball.  It's the  little plays that cost us, not a lack of talent, but a lack of discipline.

[copperfiend]

This team is still several drafts away( thats if they hit) from being a true contender. All team have injuries, but what I saw was alot of what we saw last year just slightly better. Its going to be another long year..

Not really. If Gabbert is a franchise QB, they are already a contender. Is there one bottom feeder in this league that has a franchise QB? So far this year, through camp, preseason, week one, he looks like that guy. Throw in Blackmon, Monroe, Knighton, Branch, Poz. This team has cornerstones at alot of key positions.

[duvaldude08]

This team is still several drafts away( thats if they hit) from being a true contender. All team have injuries, but what I saw was alot of what we saw last year just slightly better. Its going to be another long year..

Not really. If Gabbert is a franchise QB, they are already a contender. Is there one bottom feeder in this league that has a franchise QB? So far this year, through camp, preseason, week one, he looks like that guy. Throw in Blackmon, Monroe, Knighton, Branch, Poz. This team has cornerstones at alot of key positions.

I agree cooperfield. I was amazed at how we spreaded the ball around. I dont think weve ever done that honestly. If Im not mistaken, Gabbert threw to like 6 or 7 different people: Blackmon, Lewis, Owens, Robinson, Shorts, Jones and MJD. If you look at a team like the packers, thats why they do. They can spread the ball around. We have have 90% of our building blocks in place. Our next draft is going to set this team off.

[duvaldude08]

This team is still several drafts away( thats if they hit) from being a true contender. All team have injuries, but what I saw was alot of what we saw last year just slightly better. Its going to be another long year..

Disagree. 

Our offense looks very much improved.  Our defense is the essentially the same that is returning from last year.  I'm not going to agree that we're still 'several' drafts away.  We can win now, with who we have, but we won't do it unless all 3 phases are clicking together. 

Offense, Defense & Special Teams.

It's hard to believe, but our D & Special teams gave that game away.  And to me at least, that's a good thing - it's doesn't need that much fixing as much as it needs a kick in the ass.  Middleton is a liability.  Yobouty could be getting a call soon.  I haven't paid attention to Ross, but seems as though he's not playing up to par.  Cox is in a contract year, as is Mathis - they better get their asses on the field so they can make that next pay check. 

Horrible call to end the game - I don't even think that Gabbert looked at another reciever, 5 steps and out came the ball.  It's the  little plays that cost us, not a lack of talent, but a lack of discipline.

I dont know buddy. Youbooty wasnt all that hot either. If you remember, he was playing at the end of last season when when our secondary was getting torched. Mathis seems to be getting up to speed so hopefully they put him back at CB soon. But I agree about the players. Ive said for years we had good players that werent being utilized correctly. All JDR wanted to do is ride MJD and Fred Taylor and run the ball. They are a young team and have a alot of work to do, and that was evident on Sunday. But as you stated, just minor tweets and good kick in the rear end and they will be on track. I cant remember a time in the past few years we were in a situation like we were on Sunday. I dont think they were ready to handle that just yet. The defense put us in a bad spot. Luckily, they will be playing with a chip on their shoulder this Sunday

[wsansewjs]

This team is still several drafts away( thats if they hit) from being a true contender. All team have injuries, but what I saw was alot of what we saw last year just slightly better. Its going to be another long year..

Not really. If Gabbert is a franchise QB, they are already a contender. Is there one bottom feeder in this league that has a franchise QB? So far this year, through camp, preseason, week one, he looks like that guy. Throw in Blackmon, Monroe, Knighton, Branch, Poz. This team has cornerstones at alot of key positions.

I agree cooperfield. I was amazed at how we spreaded the ball around. I dont think weve ever done that honestly. If Im not mistaken, Gabbert threw to like 6 or 7 different people: Blackmon, Lewis, Owens, Robinson, Shorts, Jones and MJD. If you look at a team like the packers, thats why they do. They can spread the ball around. We have have 90% of our building blocks in place. Our next draft is going to set this team off.

Oh man, why are we talking about next year's drafting? We just finished playing our first regular season game. We got a long way go. Let's not focus on the future, but on the present in order to arrive at the future successfully. Go Jaguars!

-Josh

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Love me some in-depth statistics.

We've (I've) been busting on Middleton, DD08 said it was Ross - Guess what?  It was Ross & Landry:

Ross:  TA-7, Cmp-6, Yds-79, QBRA-113.7

Landry:  TA-4, Cmp-4, Yds-69, QBRA-118.8

Middleton:  TA-1, Cmp-0

Poz wasn't really good in coverage either, giving up 3 Receptions for 35 yards

And the 2 times they targeted Rutland, he gave up 48 yards on 2 catches.

Our secondary needs Cox and Mathis healthy.   Our line needs to rush the QB better.

[duvaldude08]

Love me some in-depth statistics.

We've (I've) been busting on Middleton, DD08 said it was Ross - Guess what?  It was Ross & Landry:

Ross:  TA-7, Cmp-6, Yds-79, QBRA-113.7

Landry:  TA-4, Cmp-4, Yds-69, QBRA-118.8

Middleton:  TA-1, Cmp-0

Poz wasn't really good in coverage either, giving up 3 Receptions for 35 yards

And the 2 times they targeted Rutland, he gave up 48 yards on 2 catches.

Our secondary needs Cox and Mathis healthy.   Our line needs to rush the QB better.

Thats shocking. Landry is usually in place. Hes on of the best one's. But Ive noticed with defense its a trickle down effect. If you have a few players  playing out of place, or missing tackles, etc. Tuckers defense requires you play your position and play it fast. Everybody has been all out of sync. They better figure it out. And of course with Cox, SMith and sessions out, its really showing.

[duvaldude08]

Well we could be the Browns.. Offense #32, Defense #31. Not a start anyone wants. WE started as #32 last year and stayed there. Its hard to crawl out from under that. I feel for them.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Ok we will see, this team is not very good. I'll be happy to eat my words. The Vikings are just as bad as the Jags and we couldn't beat them. 20 sec left and you still lose, not the sign of a good team. Too many injuries and not enough depth yet again. Many of you may be going off the two early preseason wins, but the Ravens game should have brought you back to earth. This will be another painful year.

DD stop with the we could be foolishness!!