Multiple People Shot outside Empire State Building

Started by hightowerlover, August 24, 2012, 09:54:47 AM

hightowerlover


Multiple people shot near Empire State building in Manhattan, police say
FoxNews.com

DEVELOPING: Multiple people were shot Friday near the Empire State building in Manhattan, the New York City Police Department confirmed to FoxNews.com.

Authorities said at least three or four victims have been wounded in the shooting and that the gunman is dead. It is not clear if the gunman shot himself or was shot by someone else.

A fire department spokesman said it received a call about the shooting just after at 9 a.m. Friday and that emergency units were on the scene within minutes.

The spokesman had no information about how many people were wounded or their conditions.

The shooting occurred at 34th Street and Fifth Avenue.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.



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hightowerlover

10 reported shot in front of Empire State Building
[Updated at 9:55 a.m. ET] - At least 10 people were shot Friday in front of the Empire State Building in New York Friday morning, the New York Office of Emergency Management said.

A suspect in the shooting was shot and killed by police, New York police said.

Authorities converged on the building around 9 a.m. after reports of gunfire.

A witness told CNN's Rose Arce that the gunman ran after and shot a man in the head. An unarmed guard chased the gunman away, the witness told Arce.

Police have closed several several streets around 5th Avenue and 34th Street in Manhattan.

New York resident Max Kaplan, 22, said he heard at least nine gunshots. He said several ambulances have arrived at the scene.

"We're all very shaken up at the office," he said.

The Empire State Building is one of the most famous skyscrapers in the world, and one of New York City's best-known tourist attractions.

Each year, about 4 million people visit the building's two observation decks. At more than 1,453 feet tall, the landmark building reaches more than a quarter-mile into the sky.

 

Ocklawaha

Quote from: stephendare on August 24, 2012, 10:28:21 AM
Ock, would you say that logistically speaking it would have been better if this guy had been armed with a rock?

Was he behind the victims? Were they blindfolded? Did he lock them into a confined space? Was his gun a single shot? How many bullets did he have with him? How many rocks did he have stored up?

Another dumb question Stephen, asking that which can't be intelligently answered to provoke an argument?

It's not a subject that generally interests me so I won't waste my time, however, needless to say, he was a law abiding gun owner who took the time to register his weapon and follow the city's gun laws.


QuoteNo permit is required for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun (except in New York City).

A license to carry or posses a pistol or revolver is required to purchase a handgun. (See HANDGUNSPOSSESSION and CARRY) Elsewhere than the City of New York, a person licensed to carry or possess a pistol or revolver may apply at any time to the licensing officer in the county of their residence for amendment of his or her license to include one or more such handguns or to cancel a handgun held under the license.

BridgeTroll

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_York

QuoteNew York is one of the strictest states in the nation with regards to the purchase, possession and carrying of handguns.[1] Most of New York State gun laws are covered in two sections of New York Penal law: article 265 - Firearms and Other Dangerous Weapons; and article 400 - Licensing and Other Provisions Relating to Firearms. These sections include the banning of possession of a handgun, exemptions to the handgun ban, including to those who have a license to carry, possess, hunt with and target shoot, repair, and dispose of firearms.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

bill


wsansewjs

Quote from: stephendare on August 24, 2012, 10:28:21 AM
WNBC's Jonathan Dienst: Disgruntled employee, had just been fired, suspect shot and killed by police, four people shot. Not terror related.

Well, I guess that being fired was worth killing a woman and shooting nine others.

Ock, would you say that logistically speaking it would have been better if this guy had been armed with a rock?

And why werent Bridge Troll, Not Now, and Non Redneck Westsider there to shoot him dead, skull hump him and ride off without fanfare in order to prevent him from harming any innocent people?

Come on guys, if you are going to be trusted to keep public order, you arent doing a very good job of it.

Three different visits to NYC personally myself, at the first glance, the semi-majority of NYPD are overweight and have this "assholism" or disgruntled attitude of their own that I didn't even like.

Heck, Florida State Troopers are much nicer than NYPD in terms of just saying a greeting and a nod back. This is not biased toward Florida. Granted, we really DO have more crazy people here in Florida than any other states (Just look at high speed chase videos... ONLY in Florida :D)

-Josh
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Captain Zissou

Quote from: stephendare on August 24, 2012, 10:28:21 AM
Ock, would you say that logistically speaking it would have been better if this guy had been armed with a rock?

And why werent Bridge Troll, Not Now, and Non Redneck Westsider there to shoot him dead, skull hump him and ride off without fanfare in order to prevent him from harming any innocent people?

Come on guys, if you are going to be trusted to keep public order, you arent doing a very good job of it.

Stephen, it's not even thirty minutes after the news broke and you are launching into your routine already?  To me that seems pretty insensitive and not what I expect from you.

Captain Zissou

Quote from: stephendare on August 24, 2012, 12:49:14 PM

Its not even a couple of weeks since the last mass shooting, Zissou.  Extraordinary times.

We agree on that. I can't remember a time when so many shootings of 5+ victims took place.  Combine that with the terror that is going on in Chicago and this may be one of the deadliest years on record. It really is starting to feel like the Mayans might be right.

fsquid

Quote from: stephendare on August 24, 2012, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on August 24, 2012, 12:18:28 PM
Quote from: stephendare on August 24, 2012, 10:28:21 AM
Ock, would you say that logistically speaking it would have been better if this guy had been armed with a rock?

And why werent Bridge Troll, Not Now, and Non Redneck Westsider there to shoot him dead, skull hump him and ride off without fanfare in order to prevent him from harming any innocent people?

Come on guys, if you are going to be trusted to keep public order, you arent doing a very good job of it.

Stephen, it's not even thirty minutes after the news broke and you are launching into your routine already?  To me that seems pretty insensitive and not what I expect from you.

Its not even a couple of weeks since the last mass shooting, Zissou.  Extraordinary times.


Despite this, violent crime numbers are still way down from their highs in the late 80s and early 90s. We just have more fruitcakes who want to be famous.

fsquid

plus, in the information age we live in now, the shooter will get a week of fame while everyone comes through his background and speculates on 100 different reasons why it happened.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: fsquid on August 24, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
plus, in the information age we live in now, the shooter will get a week of fame while everyone comes through his background and speculates on 100 different reasons why it happened.

What a novel idea... perhaps the issue is not so much a second amendment one as first amendment one...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

fsquid

Quote from: BridgeTroll on August 24, 2012, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: fsquid on August 24, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
plus, in the information age we live in now, the shooter will get a week of fame while everyone comes through his background and speculates on 100 different reasons why it happened.

What a novel idea... perhaps the issue is not so much a second amendment one as first amendment one...

by product of the first amendment, wouldn't call it an "issue".

BridgeTroll

Quote from: fsquid on August 24, 2012, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on August 24, 2012, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: fsquid on August 24, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
plus, in the information age we live in now, the shooter will get a week of fame while everyone comes through his background and speculates on 100 different reasons why it happened.

What a novel idea... perhaps the issue is not so much a second amendment one as first amendment one...

by product of the first amendment, wouldn't call it an "issue".

So... it is at least worth exploring the possibility that the rash of mass shootings is a "by product" of the first amendment.  Perhaps the press is equally as culpable in publicizing in lurid and graphic detail these mass shootings as ... the gun manufacturers and clingers to the second amendment?  This is just shocking...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Adam W

Quote from: Captain Zissou on August 24, 2012, 12:56:19 PM
Quote from: stephendare on August 24, 2012, 12:49:14 PM

Its not even a couple of weeks since the last mass shooting, Zissou.  Extraordinary times.

We agree on that. I can't remember a time when so many shootings of 5+ victims took place.  Combine that with the terror that is going on in Chicago and this may be one of the deadliest years on record. It really is starting to feel like the Mayans might be right.

What's going on in Chicago?

Pinky

Quote from: stephendare on August 24, 2012, 12:57:13 PM
QuoteTwo law enforcement officials in New York City say a recently fired store worker shot a former colleague to death and then randomly opened fired on others near the Empire State Building.
The officials say eight other people were struck by bullets but those injuries are not believed to be life threatening.

The officials say the gunman previously worked at a store inside the landmark skyscraper. The shooting happened at about 9 a.m. Friday at 34th Street and Fifth Avenue.

The law enforcement officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the matter.

Federal officials say the shooting isn't related to terrorism, and a guard at the landmark said it didn't involve the parts of the building where tourists gather to visit the skyscraper.

Bloomberg said [during the press conference]. "He killed one person and 9 others were shot, and some may have been shot accidentally by police officers who responded."


I guess there were other people with guns on the scene.

Unfortunately they may have shot even more people.

Hang on- some cops go cowboy and accidentally shoot some people and you're going to presume it has something to do with other folks having firearms??  Do you have any facts at all to support this specious bit of conjecture?