Advanced Disposal's headquarters headed to downtown or Milwaukee

[fsquid]

downtown Milwaukee is very cool.  No idea about the winter in as I've only visited it during the summer months.  Minneapolis is cold as hell, but that doesn't stop that area from attract businesses.

[heights unknown]

I think he wants to stay in Jacksonville; he's just using Milwaukee as a leverage to get our leaders to give him the incentives that he's after. It is a "no brainer" as someone said. Jacksonville: Weather, Beaches, Sunshine, better economy in Jax I believe and more. Who would want to go back up into snow, cold, sagging economy in that region, much less sunshine, and overall piss poor weather, and no beaches. YOU MAKE THE CALL!!!

[JFman00]

I think he wants to stay in Jacksonville; he's just using Milwaukee as a leverage to get our leaders to give him the incentives that he's after. It is a "no brainer" as someone said. Jacksonville: Weather, Beaches, Sunshine, better economy in Jax I believe and more. Who would want to go back up into snow, cold, sagging economy in that region, much less sunshine, and overall piss poor weather, and no beaches. YOU MAKE THE CALL!!!

I'd go back to the Midwest in a heartbeat if that was an option.

[Tacachale]

I think he wants to stay in Jacksonville; he's just using Milwaukee as a leverage to get our leaders to give him the incentives that he's after. It is a "no brainer" as someone said. Jacksonville: Weather, Beaches, Sunshine, better economy in Jax I believe and more. Who would want to go back up into snow, cold, sagging economy in that region, much less sunshine, and overall piss poor weather, and no beaches. YOU MAKE THE CALL!!!

I'd go back to the Midwest in a heartbeat if that was an option.

And i would never move to the Midwest. However, as neither of us appear to own this company it's kind of irrelevant.

[JFman00]

I think it's a little paranoid to think that they're only threatening to move for incentives, or that Jax's climate is enough to make it a sure thing they'll stay.

We definitely shouldn't go overboard in incentives though, like some towns do:
Why Have So Many Cities and Towns Given Away So Much Money to Bass Pro Shops and Cabela's?

[Tacachale]

^Neither of those things are paranoid. They're complacent, which is the opposite end of the spectrum, though probably just as problematic.

As I say I highly doubt they're threatening a move for incentives (or rather *just* for incentives). Though I agree we should never go overboard with incentives.

[BridgeTroll]

Are incentives the same as corporate welfare?

[thelakelander]

Depends on the ROI to the taxpayer in my opinion.  Every deal needs to be evaluated individual on its own merits.

[Tacachale]

^Yes, most certainly. An incentive deal that has a good return on investment can be as good for a community as any other use of public money. A deal with no ROI can be as bad as any other waste of public money (or $5 million dollar mathematical error). There are of course some who believe that any kind of incentive to a private company is a "handout"; that's short sighted.

[bill]

Are incentives the same as corporate welfare?

It depends, if it is for DT it is an incentive. Anywhere else in town it is corporate welfare.

[fsujax]

JFman00...that is exactly why Bass Pro Shops isn't in Jax. They wanted to open at the Avenues Walk and JEDC told them no to the incentives unless they built it downtown.

[BridgeTroll]

^Yes, most certainly. An incentive deal that has a good return on investment can be as good for a community as any other use of public money. A deal with no ROI can be as bad as any other waste of public money (or $5 million dollar mathematical error). There are of course some who believe that any kind of incentive to a private company is a "handout"; that's short sighted.

Thanks Tac... the corporate welfare term gets thrown about frequently

[urbaknight]

They won't let Intuition open a brewery DT. (which is a major contributor of charactor in any big city) But they tell Bass Pro Shop they can't open in Jax unless it's DT? DT, which has no river access whatsoever nor are there any plans to remedy that problem! That makes no sense at all! That's our leadership, gotta love em! Way to go JAX you did it again!

[Pinky]

They won't let Intuition open a brewery DT. (which is a major contributor of charactor in any big city) But they tell Bass Pro Shop they can't open in Jax unless it's DT? DT, which has no river access whatsoever nor are there any plans to remedy that problem! That makes no sense at all! That's our leadership, gotta love em! Way to go JAX you did it again!

Just curious why they wouldn't let Intuition open downtown?

[fsujax]

^^more like at the Shipyards property. The city doesnt want to break up the land into smaller pieces. They ought to be bending over backwards to help this guy.