Whats going on in Five Points?

Started by stephendare, February 01, 2008, 10:02:46 AM

mtraininjax

Downtown has something Riverside and Avondale do not - Salvation Army and its walls of beds.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

5PointsGuy

I can say without a doubt that Fuel has closed and that they were evicted. They were evicted in February. Don't believe me? www.duvalclerk.com -> court records -> public access -> search for "fuel coffeehouse" in the last name search field.
4 Tickets! Section 440!

ChriswUfGator

Followed your instructions, and I don't see anything related to Fuel Coffeehouse in the court records...

How about a case number?


5PointsGuy

My bad, here ya go... in the first field of the search menu (case #) 2008 - CA - 016304
4 Tickets! Section 440!

Ocklawaha

Quote from: thelakelander on February 01, 2008, 10:38:17 AM
Gentrification...

Shantytown, Boomtown and the Pearl seem to be doing good in Springfield.  What will it take to get the Five Points crowd over to Main Street?  What's the biggest obstacle?  Is it leasing rates, available buildings, building conditions or a mixture of all three?

What's the biggest obstacle?

NO STREETCARS!


OCKLAWAHA

Ernest Street

I'm with OCK...If I had a trolley to get from 5-points to Main to have a few beers without changing buses and waiting 50 minutes between them I would.
I will not run the "JSO DUI GAUNTLET" ever again (Permanent damage done here). We are forced to either drive impaired,watch others enjoy COLD enticing adult beverages right in front of us  :P or stay home and cry in our PBR's.

RiversideLoki

This is the primary reason I tend not to go over to The Pearl where most of my friends are. If public transportation were worth a darn in this city I'd do it. I'm not going to risk my life/license driving impaired when I can ride my bike up to 5-points and hang out. I like to drink, but what I'm not all about is having a bunch of drunks behind the wheel.
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Shwaz

Easy public transit would definitely help.

My girlfriend seems to be excited for a craft night at Anomaly where people can get together make hand bags jewlery etc. and have few drinks while doing so.

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ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Ernest Street on April 08, 2009, 02:08:17 PM
I'm with OCK...If I had a trolley to get from 5-points to Main to have a few beers without changing buses and waiting 50 minutes between them I would.
I will not run the "JSO DUI GAUNTLET" ever again (Permanent damage done here). We are forced to either drive impaired,watch others enjoy COLD enticing adult beverages right in front of us  :P or stay home and cry in our PBR's.

JSO is a DUI mill, it's ridiculous. I know someone who blew a "0.00", but the state attorney went to trial anyway, using the video evidence of the suspect trying to stumble through field sobriety exercises wearing women's midrise heels. They don't care, it's a profit center, they make so much money off it. So, obviously, you shouldn't drive drunk, but if you are ever caught in an unfortunate situation, here are some things to remember:

1: Refuse to answer any questions at the scene, other than the bare minimum needed to identify yourself and provide your license and insurance card to the officer. If he asks if you've had anything to drink, ALWAYS say "NO".

2: Demand to know the Officer's justification for the stop. If it's one of the many local DUI taskforce units, he's got a mic and dashcam that are recording what both of you say. This will come in handy later.

3: Refuse the field sobriety tests. You are not required by law to participate in those, and there is no penalty for refusal. While refusing a "Blood, Breath, or Urine test" can open you up to a misdemeanor refusal charge, that does NOT apply to the field sobriety exercises. So no sense in creating more evidence against yourself, right?

4: If after you refuse the exercises, the officer approaches you with a field breath-meter, state loudly (so his dashcam and mic pick it up) that you have asthma and cannot use the device. State loudly you are willing to take a blood or urine test. This will seal the deal, since there is no way to conduct those on-scene.

This will put the officer in the position of having to arrest you or let you go, based solely on the evidence he has at that point (which won't be much, since you refused the exercises). If he arrests you, you are now in a position to argue over the probable cause for the stop, and separately you're also in a great position to argue over PC for the arrest.

Remember, if he lacked PC for the arrest (which he likely will, if you refuse the sobriety exercises), then any blood, urine, or breath test done afterwards is inadmissible.

90% of DUI cases are made on the basis of the video-taped field sobriety exercises, the breathalyzer results, and all the dumb $h!t people say to the officer. So, don't be an idiot behind the wheel, obviously. But if they try to run you through the DUI mill after a routine traffic stop, then there's no need to build their case for them.



ProjectMaximus

^ it's gonna be hard to remember all of that next time I'm driving drunk! j/k...i dont do that.

blizz01

I'm printing it on an index card & taping it to my visor!  ;)

mtraininjax

Quote1: Refuse to answer any questions at the scene, other than the bare minimum needed to identify yourself and provide your license and insurance card to the officer. If he asks if you've had anything to drink, ALWAYS say "NO".

2: Demand to know the Officer's justification for the stop. If it's one of the many local DUI taskforce units, he's got a mic and dashcam that are recording what both of you say. This will come in handy later.

3: Refuse the field sobriety tests. You are not required by law to participate in those, and there is no penalty for refusal. While refusing a "Blood, Breath, or Urine test" can open you up to a misdemeanor refusal charge, that does NOT apply to the field sobriety exercises. So no sense in creating more evidence against yourself, right?

4: If after you refuse the exercises, the officer approaches you with a field breath-meter, state loudly (so his dashcam and mic pick it up) that you have asthma and cannot use the device. State loudly you are willing to take a blood or urine test. This will seal the deal, since there is no way to conduct those on-scene.

Since Chris and I are both lawyers, this advice is worth what you paid for it....

Do not drive drunk, the cab is a better ride than a $10,000 defense, and whenever I see my judge I still rub his smug face in it. Thank you Fl state supreme court.

Many JSO cruisers Mics and Cameras do not work, at all. So if you are lucky, maybe your cruiser is broken. All JSO, when they catch you, are told to arrest you. Just put on the cuffs, be polite, DO NOT CURSE at them, they write EVERYTHING DOWN you say, and sit there in the cruiser long enough for your hands to swell with the cuffs on them. BE POLITE, it goes a long way.

When you get to the station, decline to blow. Sure its a 90 day suspension of the license, but its far better than spend 10k to defend yourself. When you blow, Corey has you by the short ones. That number is what the judges use in 99% of the cases against you. If over the .08, I don't care if you have the winning lottery numbers, you are done.

The process is a good 6-9 months, even longer for most. So if you want to spend 10k on 8 hours of incarceration (state law says DUI must spend at least 8 hours in the "tank"), and have a nasty rash from the prison uniform (you wonder if they ever wash them), go drive drunk. Otherwise, get the cab, save yourself from danger and possibly hurting someone else. Know what you are getting into. This ain't no simple traffic ticket, this is a misdemeanor or felony (if you hit someone or something).

Remember, you can't take it back.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

ChriswUfGator

How you liking Corey so far? I hear it's really turning into the gestapo over there...

Also, yeah, FWIW, the easiest way out of a DUI is obviously not to drive drunk. Can't not agree with that.


barberofdeville

Im new to Jax(moved here from Louisville, KY) and am thinking of opening a Retro 1930's through 60's style Rockabilly Barber Shop. Full with straight razor Shave's, pomps, flat tops, mowhawks, as well as current trends and artistic styles(think Hawley wood's out of California style place. Ive heard that the points is similiar to the Highlands in Louisville. The plan is to get something going over the next six months- a year. Do you think it would go over well or Do you think now is not the time? Trying to get some feed back from those of you twho have been there for awhile and actually dont mind leaving suburbia to venture into the city. Anyway any feedback would be great.

Thanks
Farrell Stephens
Farrell Stephens~Master Barber~

BridgeTroll

I would stop in once a week for a straight razor shave.
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