How Obamacare affects you in 2014 and Beyond

[finehoe]

I am not saying you are intentionally presenting misinformation

No worries, I didn't take it that way.

However, did you look at the Urban Institute piece cited in the article? (http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/411762_public_insurance.pdf)  They address this, and say

CBO compared the administrative costs and private
health plans participating in Medicare with
those of the traditional Medicare program.
Both estimates would underestimate Medicare
administrative costs for the reasons given
above, but the key point is the differential.

Italics mine.  Yes, this may cause Medicare admin costs to be understated, but the results still show the private insurance admin costs to be greater.

[bill]

Yes the Federal Government is known for cheaper and better. Go back to la la land and it will all be OK.

You would appear to be the one in la la land: 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/30/barbara-boxer/barbara-boxer-says-medicare-overhead-far-lower-pri/

Sure Boxer and politifact, both credible. I am sure it will be effecient and cheaper like the post office, I mean DMV, no welfare, um maybe government schools, nevermind I am sure it really will be cheaper and better. Now back to the real world.

[FayeforCure]

Yes the Federal Government is known for cheaper and better. Go back to la la land and it will all be OK.

You would appear to be the one in la la land: 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/30/barbara-boxer/barbara-boxer-says-medicare-overhead-far-lower-pri/

Sure Boxer and politifact, both credible. I am sure it will be effecient and cheaper like the post office, I mean DMV, no welfare, um maybe government schools, nevermind I am sure it really will be cheaper and better. Now back to the real world.

This reminds me of a Republican I spoke with recently.........he was so funny........he said he doesn't believe in all the studies that are done that show decreased up ward mobility in the US vs many other western nations..........to which he responded:

"I don't believe in aggregate studies, because on an individual basis it is still possible."

IOW don't bother doing ANY studies........collecting any collective facts..........as long as in my little world it is as it is.......I will never be convinced.

I you believe in the sham of for-profit schools, you have no idea how our students are being ripped off:

Costly Lesson: For-Profit schools' students buried in loan debt

http://www.mnn.com/money/personal-finance/videos/costly-lesson-for-profit-schools-students-buried-in-loan-debt

[Lunican]

This is an outrage! 16,500 employees will get health insurance but the pizza loving public now must foot the bill! Thanks a lot Obama...

Papa John's CEO John Schnatter says that Obamacare will result in a $0.11 to $0.14 price increase per pizza, or $0.15 to $0.20 cents per order, Pizza Marketplace, a trade publication, reports.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/papa-johns-obamacare-pizza_n_1752126.html

[ChriswUfGator]

Well that puts this goddamn socialism into perspective doesn't it...

So I have to pay an extra $0.11, but 16,500 people are covered by health insurance?

Wow, yeah, umm...what a travesty.

They'll get that $0.11 out of my cold, dead, hands.

[buckethead]

Naive or disingenuous?

You decide....

[fsquid]

Occupy Papa Johns?

[FayeforCure]

Calling on all Republican opponents of Obamacare to reject their health care insurance rebate checks.

Help healthcare companies increase their profits. Send your rebate checks back to the healthcare insurance companies.

"Welfare to the corporations" is the motto.

How many Republican takers do we have so far in Jax?

[NotNow]

If you could get us completely out of Obamacare, you would have takers.  But then, who would pay for all that medical care?

[fsquid]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324874204578441032081716170?mg=reno64-wsj.html?dsk=y

[JeffreyS]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324874204578441032081716170?mg=reno64-wsj.html?dsk=y

Interesting article except that those are the same kind of increases we have seen over the last 15 years we can hardly blame Obamacare for sky rocketing premiums that have already been skyrocketing.  Insurers will continue to charge what the market can bear.  Now once we get this portion of insurance reform done we need to move on to Healthcare reform that Obamacare is often confused for. 

It seems hard to believe that taking many free riders off the back of the government and that moving many who will still be getting the government to pay for their care out of the emergency room as primary care won't have any positive cost effects.

Change is almost always met with fear mongering especially when one side has a political interest in breeding discontent.  I don't mind those that want to change Obamacare but those that insist we repeal and return to the old dysfunctional system first strike me as disingenuous. 

[fsquid]

And this is the problem in a nut shell. They didn't do anything to cap costs on premiums.

I agree that one shouldn't repeal it unless they have another program ready to come to the floor for a vote.

[carpnter]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324874204578441032081716170?mg=reno64-wsj.html?dsk=y

Interesting article except that those are the same kind of increases we have seen over the last 15 years we can hardly blame Obamacare for sky rocketing premiums that have already been skyrocketing.  Insurers will continue to charge what the market can bear.  Now once we get this portion of insurance reform done we need to move on to Healthcare reform that Obamacare is often confused for. 

It seems hard to believe that taking many free riders off the back of the government and that moving many who will still be getting the government to pay for their care out of the emergency room as primary care won't have any positive cost effects.

Change is almost always met with fear mongering especially when one side has a political interest in breeding discontent.  I don't mind those that want to change Obamacare but those that insist we repeal and return to the old dysfunctional system first strike me as disingenuous.

As someone who pays completely out of pocket for insurance, my premiums this year increased significantly more this year than in years past.  In previous years I've had a single digit increase typically under 5%, this year it was over 10%

[JeffreyS]

It also won't be apples to apples with the coverage pre Obamacare because the coverages will have diffrent standards to meet.  I am worried even though I support moving forward.  We should just go back to having health insurance be for non profits only worked very well in America for a long time.  However I would support single payer over this.

And this is the problem in a nut shell. They didn't do anything to cap costs on premiums.

Premiums are capped to the extent that they have to rebate money not spent on medical services less 2%.

I have no doubt that for profit businesses will beat the Government at this game and will administer 1000 paper cuts of small "improvements" for the companies over the customers.

[JeffreyS]

Single healthy men who now carry coverage look like they will be the losers as premium balancing will take away their previous advantage.  Particularly in states where no exchanges will be formed.