If Oklahoma City can get a NBA team.......WHY CANT JACKSONVILLE????

[Keith-N-Jax]

How is/or why is Tampa ahead of Miami and Orlando? I find that interesting.

[Ocklawaha]

We are screwed because except for 'Middleburg' Jacksonville's market covers a lot of pine trees.


Check out Tampa, they are able to count from the edge of Orlando to Sarasota and Dunnellon.


Miami is screwed because the Everglades eat's about 75% of it's market area.

[Tacachale]

I think alot of folks are being caught up with Memphis's and OKC's early success in those small markets;

Market size doesn't seem to dictate fan base, loyalty or tickets sold. Market share for TV commercials is where the big bucks are, in which case we are regressing. According to the Nielson Ratings

NATIONAL TV MARKET SIZE...

NYC is number 1
Los Angeles is number 2, The NFL LA Raiders averaged 44,285 per game in a stadium seating 93,607  fans. As for the Ram's - Raiders etc... If your living in LOS ANGELES, on a typically Mediterranean day, who the hell want's to go watch football?
Tampa is number 14
Miami/FLL is number 16
Orlando is number 19
Raleigh is number 24
Charlotte is number 25
Birmingham is number 39 up one point from last year.
OKLAHOMA CITY is number 44 up one point from last year.
Memphis is number 49
...And Jacksonville is number 50, down one from last year!

This is where you get into the complexities of sports business.

Sticking just with television, in addition to the primary television markets, teams also have secondary markets which are sometimes larger than their primary markets. The most famous example of this is Green Bay, as their games are broadcast in the much larger Milwaukee market as well as most of Wisconsin. In our case, Jacksonville's only the 50th largest TV market, but Jaguars games are also broadcast in the huge Orlando-Melbourne-Daytona market as well as in smaller ones like Gainesville. OKC benefits from being the only game in the state, so their games will be shown throughout, though their secondary markets are still pretty small.

Additionally, there's also the matter of national television rights and revenue sharing. Sports games make money wherever they're aired, not just in the local market. In the NBA (and other leagues), national TV revenues are shared across the league, keeping things sporting and making market area less important.

Moving beyond just TV, all sports teams generate a huge chunk of their income from ticket sales. Regardless of how well they do on TV they still need to sell out at the gate. And due to blackout policies, local TV doesn't matter at all if the games don't sell out, as the games aren't shown. This has been happening a lot recently in the Tampa-St. Pete market - Florida's largest. This is where smaller market teams can really suffer in ways big market teams rarely do. This is where teams like OKC and Memphis will be tested, and where Jacksonville, New Orleans, and Buffalo already have been tested.

[tufsu1]

How is/or why is Tampa ahead of Miami and Orlando? I find that interesting.

because West Palm Beach is a separate TV market from Miami....and Tampa is a much larger metro than Orlando, plus the TV market includes Sarasota and Bradenton too

[Keith-N-Jax]

Has Tampa tried getting a NBA team? they already seem pretty maxed out with MLB, NFL, and I believe thay have hockey also.

[mikew]

The city needs to focus on supporting the one major league team we have - the Jaguars.  When you consider that much larger markets, like San Antonio, Portland OR, and the Hampton Roads area don't have NFL teams, we're very fortunate.

Besides, I doubt the (new) arena Jax has now would be adequate for an NBA team.

Regarding the Jaguars:  I think since the formation of Team Teal in 2009, the city has done a much better job of supporting the team.   There has been more of a grassroots effort by the team (and the fans) to reach out to new customers.  And Kahn has come up with some good promotions to get more fannies in seats;  the half-price tickets for kids is genius.   So is the tie-in promotions with the military.  Frankly, a lot of this should have been done a long time ago.

I feel like we're over the hump with attendance woes.   Last year despite the perfect storm of a bad economy, a lock out, and a moribund coach in Jack Del Rio -  we did okay in the stands.  This year, thanks to a new owner and a new coach,  I'm sensing renewed enthusiasm for the team, and I bet that translates into a lot of extra tickets sold.   Tony Boselli has raised the goal to not just avoiding blackouts, but filling every seat.  I think that will happen sooner than later.

You want to get another major league team in Jax?  Start supporting the Jaguars. 

[Coolyfett]

If you look at the stats....Jacksonville has a largest city and metro population. Jacksonville International Airport is larger than OKC's Will Rogers World Airport. Jacksonville has an overall larger advantage over Oklahoma City in just about every aspect. SO MY QUESTION IS.........WHY CANT JACKSONVILLE SUPPORT A NBA TEAM?!?

As soneone who dislikes the fact that people are always talking trash about Duval having the Jaguars. I say leave OKC alone and let them have their team. Go Orlando Magic...RIP to my Sonics and Go Thunder. I dont think we should question OKC at all.

[fsquid]

Many of the soccer teams in Europe do the lower cost tickets for kids.  Gets the next generation loyal to your brand.