Traffic Woes: Perception vs Reality

Started by David, February 28, 2012, 04:23:51 PM

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spuwho

#45
September 02, 2016, 06:10:59 PM
Having lived and commuted in Chicago for many years (train, motorcycle, bicycle and car), Jacksonville, even on a bad day is pretty good.

I am 15m normal and 20m on a bad day.

Google Maps is my friend and I am always able to find a re-route in most cases.

The axiom that the most direct route is the quickest way home just doesnt work in Jax all the time.

It is a matter of perspective.

BridgeTroll

#46
September 02, 2016, 07:59:36 PM
The act of stopping at a red light has changed.  What was once an annoyance and something to avoid has turned into the opportunity to text, email, call, or browse.  I sometimes get the feeling many would prefer a long stay at the red...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

#47
May 12, 2017, 08:10:34 AM
An interactive map showing commute times in the continental US.  Pick a zip code and see how we fare...

https://project.wnyc.org/commute-times-us/embed.html#5.00/38.058/-90.613

In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

thelakelander

#48
May 12, 2017, 08:50:07 AM
Nice find!
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

remc86007

#49
May 12, 2017, 10:03:25 AM
That's a pretty cool map, but I wish it included the standard deviation for each zip code. For instance, many people in 32206 likely have under 10 minute commutes, whereas very few people that live in 32259 have commutes that are under 10 minutes, but that fact is obscured by the average which places those two zipcodes only 4 minutes apart.

BridgeTroll

#50
May 12, 2017, 10:05:48 AM
Did you try zooming in?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

remc86007

#51
May 12, 2017, 01:21:29 PM
Yes, all I see is the average and the estimated error.

TimmyB

#52
May 12, 2017, 01:23:46 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on September 02, 2016, 07:59:36 PM
The act of stopping at a red light has changed.  What was once an annoyance and something to avoid has turned into the opportunity to text, email, call, or browse.  I sometimes get the feeling many would prefer a long stay at the red...

And, we used to zoom around those people.  Now, we want nothing to do with them being BEHIND us, while they are being so distracted!

BridgeTroll

#53
May 12, 2017, 02:25:11 PM
Quote from: TimmyB on May 12, 2017, 01:23:46 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on September 02, 2016, 07:59:36 PM
The act of stopping at a red light has changed.  What was once an annoyance and something to avoid has turned into the opportunity to text, email, call, or browse.  I sometimes get the feeling many would prefer a long stay at the red...

And, we used to zoom around those people.  Now, we want nothing to do with them being BEHIND us, while they are being so distracted!

Exactly... it is kind of sad these people are so addicted to their device they simply CANNOT put it away while driving.  Any free moment is used to text some meaningless banter...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

spuwho

#54
May 12, 2017, 03:53:29 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on May 12, 2017, 02:25:11 PM
Quote from: TimmyB on May 12, 2017, 01:23:46 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on September 02, 2016, 07:59:36 PM
The act of stopping at a red light has changed.  What was once an annoyance and something to avoid has turned into the opportunity to text, email, call, or browse.  I sometimes get the feeling many would prefer a long stay at the red...

And, we used to zoom around those people.  Now, we want nothing to do with them being BEHIND us, while they are being so distracted!

Exactly... it is kind of sad these people are so addicted to their device they simply CANNOT put it away while driving.  Any free moment is used to text some meaningless banter...

It might not be banter.

With the death of decent FM radio, many have shifted to Pandora, You Tube or their personal music collections for material.

I remember a guy was late getting started in 1977 because he was reaching for his box of 8 tracks under the seat to do a quick album swap.

In the early days of driving Ford made it so as to move, you had to push the clutch pedal down to engage the tranny. After all, one didnt need to drive far in those days.

Now with MyFord, Sync, AppleCar, AndroidCar, voice recognition "should" be able to cope with a drivers needs without having to look down.

But in my rental 2017 Chevy Impala last week in Missouri, after allowing it all access to my phone via bluetooth, I still couldnt get the voice control to work properly.

Asking it to call my wife, instead it kept calling my good friends wife.

Asking for Fleetwood Mac music to play off my phone had it go to a local classic rock FM station.

Asking it to pause YouTube while going through a drive up window had my phone search for a video called "Pause".

Until voice command can be perfected, looking down at electronics will be a fact of our life.

BridgeTroll

#55
May 12, 2017, 06:28:22 PM
Still... really???
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Adam White

#56
May 12, 2017, 07:10:08 PM
Quote from: spuwho on May 12, 2017, 03:53:29 PM


Asking for Fleetwood Mac music to play off my phone had it go to a local classic rock FM station.



Sounds like it did you a solid there  :D
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

spuwho

#57
May 12, 2017, 08:18:51 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on May 12, 2017, 06:28:22 PM
Still... really???

Well, its not electronic, but history is rife with distracted drivers.

The woman weaving on the Eisenhower Expwy in Chicago, just to find out she was trying to get girdle off.

The soccer mom with 2 in the back baby seats and one has a throw up event.

The guy who rear ended someone because something he heard on the radio ticked him off so bad he stop paying attention.

Of course the guy with the hot McD coffee between his legs.

Women turning their rear view mirror towards them so they could put on mascara.

There was the guy on the Dan Ryan in Chicago weaving back and forth across 3 lanes. Turns out his wife was performing an act of marital bliss on him and was losing his focus!

The list of distractions goes on and on. Its just part of driving in the good ole USA.

thelakelander

#58
May 12, 2017, 09:01:09 PM
You just made a great case for why bikes and cars should not share lanes...
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

BridgeTroll

#59
May 13, 2017, 07:32:23 AM
That is exactly why I will not ride my bike on roads.  Spuwho... those examples are NOT the same as the chronic distraction caused by phones. It's almost Pavlovian... they simply cannot put the device down.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."
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