Downtown 7-Eleven Renderings Released

Started by Metro Jacksonville, December 06, 2011, 06:19:48 AM

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December 06, 2011, 06:19:48 AM
Downtown 7-Eleven Renderings Released



7-Eleven has announced its intentions to open a downtown gas station and convenience store at the intersection of Main and Union Streets.  Metro Jacksonville shares renderings of the proposed project.

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thelakelander

#1
December 06, 2011, 06:23:12 AM
It would be nice to see the interior layout of the proposed 7-Eleven.  I wonder if it would be simple to shift the main entrance closer to Main Street?
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vicupstate

#2
December 06, 2011, 07:02:57 AM
The first plan is much better, is the change mainly to accomodate the car wash?
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thelakelander

#3
December 06, 2011, 07:12:41 AM Last Edit: December 06, 2011, 07:15:48 AM by thelakelander


Here is the original site plan.  It appears that the changes are being made to reduce the building's size in favor of more space for on-site tanker truck delivery access around the gas pump area.


Revised 7-Eleven site plan
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acme54321

#4
December 06, 2011, 08:24:54 AM Last Edit: December 06, 2011, 08:30:01 AM by acme54321
Looks like pretty much the same plan to me. 

The only thing that bothers me is this:

6. Applicant to apply for and receive a deviation to eliminate entrances on Main Street and Union Street frontages prior to Final DDRB Approval.

They should keep those entrances or at least modify it with a corner entrance.  Even though it will still look very similar I think they need to retain some sort of connectivity to those streets for pedestrians.  What could be the reasoning behind this?  Saving space? 

Other than that looks like it should be a nice addition.  The elimination of the cafe/outdoor seating doesn't really bother me.  How many people would actually want to eat lunch at a gas station, or sitting right on Union St for that matter?

thelakelander

#5
December 06, 2011, 08:31:40 AM
No entrances would be on Union or Main Streets.
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Tacachale

#6
December 06, 2011, 08:45:16 AM
This doesn't look as bad as I was expecting, but it does look like just another gas station.
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thelakelander

#8
December 06, 2011, 12:59:33 PM Last Edit: December 06, 2011, 01:01:23 PM by thelakelander
Quote from: acme54321 on December 06, 2011, 08:24:54 AM
They should keep those entrances or at least modify it with a corner entrance.  Even though it will still look very similar I think they need to retain some sort of connectivity to those streets for pedestrians.  What could be the reasoning behind this?  Saving space? 

Other than that looks like it should be a nice addition.  The elimination of the cafe/outdoor seating doesn't really bother me.  How many people would actually want to eat lunch at a gas station, or sitting right on Union St for that matter?

I agree.  Without knowing the interior layout, I believe a corner entrance at Main & Union would be a great idea.  The only real knock I see in the revised plan is now the entire building turns its back to downtown and the main intersection.  Pedestrian scale urbanism and walkability is more than just sticking a building's walls next to the sidewalk.  There needs to be stronger interaction in the form of opens and window displays.   This could be resolved by making that tower element a functional corner entrance.
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duvaldude08

#9
December 06, 2011, 01:30:03 PM
Im glad to atleast see that something is still happening. This project has been quiet for awhile.
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JaxNative68

#10
December 06, 2011, 04:29:44 PM
great.  another poorly designed eifs box for jacksonville.  nothing like bringing your bad suburban buildings downtown.

JeffreyS

#11
December 06, 2011, 04:45:26 PM
If 7-eleven is told they need to live up to the previously approved design I bet they will.
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acme54321

#12
December 06, 2011, 05:16:53 PM
Who is on the DDRB?

iMarvin

#13
December 06, 2011, 05:26:42 PM
Quote from: JaxNative68 on December 06, 2011, 04:29:44 PM
great.  another poorly designed eifs box for jacksonville.  nothing like bringing your bad suburban buildings downtown.

This is exactly what I thought. This looks like it belongs in the St. Johns Town Center. I'm happy for the addition, but this is so plain and poorly designed.
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