Jags vs. Texans Reactions

Started by Keith-N-Jax, October 30, 2011, 04:37:28 PM

duvaldude08

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on October 31, 2011, 10:41:38 AM
Guys, Dirk is the OC, not the QB coach.

If you want to place blame with the playcalling, the he's your guy.  If you want to blame someone for not coaching up Gabbert....

QuoteMike Sheppard was named quarterbacks coach for the Jaguars on February 14, 2011. Sheppard has 36 years of coaching experience including 17 in the NFL and 19 at the collegiate level. His resume includes two head coaching positions in college (Long Beach State and New Mexico), as well as NFL offensive coordinator duties at San Diego (1997-98), Buffalo (2001) and New Orleans (2005).

Previously Sheppard served four seasons (2007-10) as wide receivers coach with the Cincinnati Bengals. In 2009 he oversaw the return to Pro Bowl form of Chad Ochocinco, the Bengals’ all-time receiving leader. Ochocinco led the team in receptions (72), receiving yards (1,047) and touchdowns (nine) and he made his sixth career appearance in the Pro Bowl.

Sheppard spent four seasons (2002-05) with the New Orleans Saints before joining the Bengals. As quarterbacks coach his first three years with the Saints, he worked to develop Aaron Brooks, who threw for 72 touchdowns and only 39 interceptions during those three seasons. Sheppard was promoted to offensive coordinator for 2005, the last season for head coach Jim Haslett.

After entering the NFL in 1993 as tight ends coach with the Cleveland Browns, Sheppard was Browns wide receivers coach in 1994-95. He spent the 1996 season as wide receivers coach with Baltimore where he had his first NFL experience as a play-caller, as he was given the duty by head coach Ted Marchibroda, and the Ravens offense finished third in the NFL in net yards as well as second in passing yards.

Sheppard has also spent time as offensive coordinator for San Diego (1997-98), quarterbacks coach for Seattle (1999-2000) and offensive coordinator for Buffalo (2001).

A native of Tulsa, Okla., Sheppard played wide receiver at Cal Lutheran (1969-72), and he began his coaching career at Cal Lutheran in 1974. He holds a bachelor’s degree from Cal Lutheran and a master’s degree from Brigham Young.

Sheppard was born Oct. 29, 1951. He and his wife, Cathie, have four children â€" Chrissi, Brian, Shelby and Macall â€" and two grandchildren, Christian and Samantha.

COACHING BACKGROUND

California Lutheran 1974-76, Brigham Young 1977-78, U.S. International 1979, Idaho State 1980-81, Long Beach State 1982, Kansas 1983, Long Beach State (head coach) 1984-86, New Mexico (head coach) 1987-91, California 1992, Cleveland Browns 1993-95, Baltimore Ravens 1996, San Diego Chargers 1997-98, Seattle Seahawks 1999-2000, Buffalo Bills 2001, New Orleans Saints 2002-05, Cincinnati Bengals 2007-10, Jacksonville Jaguars 2011.[/quote}

The point that was being made was this. Dirk sits in the booth and calls plays to the QB coach.. The QB communicates the plays to Blaine. They ALL should be on the sideline's helping him. Our cocaching staff is soft and they have no idea what they are doing. They are all STUPID and Im personally sick of it. Im tired of this team being ran in the ground... No time to point blame, its all of them.
Jaguars 2.0

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I-10east

#17
^^^Actually he's .500 (1-1) as a starter. He started in the week 7 loss vs the Packers.

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Dapperdan

We have the same receivers from last year and we were 8-8. The O line is nearly identical. Garrard, Gabbart is the only differnce. I  am sorry, but I am placing alot of the blame on him. Until he steps up, it is going to be this way.

Keith-N-Jax

To BG credit he has faced some of the toughest defenses. Would our recievers start on another NFL team, maybe Thomas in the slot? The rest not to sure. Will they be able to beat the Colts? Gonna be pretty bad in Jag land if you cant be the Manningless Colts.

I-10east

#21
Dapper, this year, do you think that the WR's are getting open? Even the broadcasters were harping on the lack of separation from the receivers. For whatever reason, this year Lewis has gotten considerably worse IMO; He needs to have more HEAT on him, instead of the dumb Rashean flak that many misinformed Jags fans bask in. Garrard was more mobile, I'll give you that, but Gabbert is more of a pocket passer, so there's not much that can be done with that.

Keith-N-Jax

#22
Quote from: Dapperdan on October 31, 2011, 11:09:03 AM
We have the same receivers from last year and we were 8-8. The O line is nearly identical. Garrard, Gabbart is the only differnce. I  am sorry, but I am placing alot of the blame on him. Until he steps up, it is going to be this way.

With a lock out and  he was just thrown out there to face some of the NFLs top defenses with receivers he had no time to work with you cant be serious. DG had alteast two yrs or more with these guys . Plus a full off season. I don't need to remind you BG is a rookie RIGHT?

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Shwaz

Lot's of excuses rolling for BG. Lot's of QB's are playing behind a terrible OL and still make plays. Big Ben takes more sacks than just about anyone and still throws for 350 yards a game. Also, BG is doing his fair share in making the OL look bad. When Mornoe blocks a guy outside and way into the backfield - STEP UP AND MAKE A THROW! Move up in the pocket. Stop prematurely scrambling from phantom pressure!!!!!

It's obvious that the WR corps aren't playing well.... but they were a 100 times better last season playing with Dave so it's unfair to put it all on them.

Did anyone else catch the commentary about BG being 'tentative' in the pocket? It's not just the announcers from yesterday's game... it's Paul K at ESPN - Jeff Lageman - The MNF crew - just about everyone & anyone who has witnessed him play is calling him a coward.

Even Blaine will tell you that the talk is cheap and the excuses aren't justified.
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duvaldude08

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on October 31, 2011, 11:19:46 AM
Quote from: Dapperdan on October 31, 2011, 11:09:03 AM
We have the same receivers from last year and we were 8-8. The O line is nearly identical. Garrard, Gabbart is the only differnce. I  am sorry, but I am placing alot of the blame on him. Until he steps up, it is going to be this way.

With a lock out and  he was just thrown out there to face some of the NFLs top defenses with receivers he had no time to work with you cant be serious. DG had alteast two yrs or more with these guys . Plus a full off season. I don't need to remind you BG is a rookie RIGHT?

And not to mention David had been on the team since 2001.
Jaguars 2.0

duvaldude08

Quote from: Dapperdan on October 31, 2011, 11:09:03 AM
We have the same receivers from last year and we were 8-8. The O line is nearly identical. Garrard, Gabbart is the only differnce. I  am sorry, but I am placing alot of the blame on him. Until he steps up, it is going to be this way.

sorry DD but out O-line is not indentical. The are several of our starters from last year are on IR, andwe had to cut one at the beginning of traning camp because he was out of shape. Our O-line is very spotty this year.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Dapperdan on October 31, 2011, 11:09:03 AM
We have the same receivers from last year and we were 8-8. The O line is nearly identical. Garrard, Gabbart is the only differnce. I  am sorry, but I am placing alot of the blame on him. Until he steps up, it is going to be this way.

I can't find a stat for dropped passes v/s bad throws v/s passes defensed, but through last week, the completion %s for our top 4 recievers:

Jason Hill 47%, Mike Thomas 51%, Jarett Dillard 56%, Marcedes Lewis 41%

We're a team that throws the ball only 25-30 times a game which means we're averaging only 15ish completions per game.  I know that stats can be twisted, but seriously, most of our receivers catching the ball around 50% is cause for concern.  There's got to be a reason for it.
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Shwaz

Quote from: duvaldude08 on October 31, 2011, 11:37:55 AM
Quote from: Dapperdan on October 31, 2011, 11:09:03 AM
We have the same receivers from last year and we were 8-8. The O line is nearly identical. Garrard, Gabbart is the only differnce. I  am sorry, but I am placing alot of the blame on him. Until he steps up, it is going to be this way.

sorry DD but out O-line is not indentical. The are several of our starters from last year are on IR, andwe had to cut one at the beginning of traning camp because he was out of shape. Our O-line is very spotty this year.

Like who? Britton is the only OL really hurt right now. Rackley is a new addition and playing piss poor. Cameron Bradfield is another new addition and playing well.

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^^^Seriously Shwaz, you're comp
Quote from: Shwaz on October 31, 2011, 11:32:13 AM
Lot's of excuses rolling for BG. Lot's of QB's are playing behind a terrible OL and still make plays. Big Ben takes more sacks than just about anyone and still throws for 350 yards a game. Also, BG is doing his fair share in making the OL look bad. When Mornoe blocks a guy outside and way into the backfield - STEP UP AND MAKE A THROW! Move up in the pocket. Stop prematurely scrambling from phantom pressure!!!!!

It's obvious that the WR corps aren't playing well.... but they were a 100 times better last season playing with Dave so it's unfair to put it all on them.

Did anyone else catch the commentary about BG being 'tentative' in the pocket? It's not just the announcers from yesterday's game... it's Paul K at ESPN - Jeff Lageman - The MNF crew - just about everyone & anyone who has witnessed him play is calling him a coward.

Even Blaine will tell you that the talk is cheap and the excuses aren't justified.


Seriously Shwaz, you're comparing Big Ben, a veteran QB who has won the freakin' SB, to a rookie QB? If Blaine had 'halfway decent' WR's(which we don't have) then your Blaine bashing would be justified; It's hard to blame a rookie QB that doesn't have a decent supporting cast (besides MJD). I would have 'phantom pressure' too if I was behind an inconsistent O-line, along with some awful receivers to boot.