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[duvaldude08]

^^^I haven't heard anything outta Oakland concerning moving; I checked out raiders.com, PFT, silverandblackprime.com and didn't see anything. The main thing that I saw was the Matt Schaub interview. What site is the Mark Davis press conference on?

With the other team that had ties to LA, the St Louis Rams, the relocation talk has heated up like a foundry! The latest news is that Stan Kroenke owner of the Rams is NOT going to use that Inglewood land for a MLS team stadium like many in St Louis had hoped for; The MLS commissioner said that a MLS owner CANNOT have two teams, and he already owns the Colorado Rapids in Denver.

So now the choices on what he's gonna do with the land is basically down to either a Walmart, or the new home of the Los Angeles Rams, barring some truly unexpected turn of events. Check out this link, and skip to about the 7:00 mark (description box).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F5I4PypzI0&list=UUtJmammSraPwI3crnOyTuQ

Mark Davis talked about it in his press conference.

Mark Davis: Oakland Raiders thinking about L.A.437By Gregg Rosenthal
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Published: March 23, 2014 at 09:08 p.m. Updated: March 24, 2014 at 08:26 a.m.     Friend(s) Email  Your Email Send Email By Gregg Rosenthal Raiders not inclined to deal for Eagles WR JacksonMark Davis: Raiders 'would be well embraced' in L.A.More Columns >

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Oakland Raiders' stadium situation has threatened to come to a head for years. Owner Mark Davis believes the issue is entering a crucial juncture, and he can't help but think about his options to the south.

"We're not done in Oakland. We're trying really hard, and we'll see how that goes," Davis said Sunday at the outset of the NFL Annual Meeting, via CSNBayArea.com. "But Los Angeles is something that I've definitely thought about and haven't pursued. There are other places as well. Until we can find out if Oakland is real, then I'm still staying in Oakland. If we can get something done in Oakland, I will stay in Oakland."

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While Davis was clear to say multiple times that the team wants to stay in Oakland, he believes the team would be popular if it moved to Southern California.

"I know that we would be well embraced down there," Davis said. "There's no question about that."

The San Francisco 49ers have found their new stadium solution in Santa Clara, and they will host a Super Bowl in 2016. Davis, meanwhile, is pushing for a deal this year. He's starting to apply more public pressure.

"(Oakland mayor Jean Quan) stated publicly that she wanted to have a deal done by the end of last football season," Davis said. "That came and went. Now she's talking about this summer. We'll see how that goes, but we're trying. We're really trying.

"What we've done is sign a one-year extension to our lease and we'll play (at the Oakland Coliseum) this season. At the end of this season, we have to determine what's going to happen."

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[pierre]

I don't see how Oakland will ever be a viable market. That stadium is a dump and they aren't building them a new one. The Raiders have always made the most sense for LA but I don't see a new stadium being built there. The talk about Portland being a potential destination is interesting.

[duvaldude08]

I don't see how Oakland will ever be a viable market. That stadium is a dump and they aren't building them a new one. The Raiders have always made the most sense for LA but I don't see a new stadium being built there. The talk about Portland being a potential destination is interesting.

Yeah I honestly think the Raiders are going to leave in the end. The oakland market is terrible no matter how you slice. The city of Oakland really doesnt have the resources to build a new stadium. LA would make the most sense. I think the main issue with an LA stadium has been that no team has expressed interest in relocating.

[I-10east]

Thanks for the info Duvaldude. Boy, no one can't say that the Raiders owner isn't transparent, with that upfront news. I have to throw San Diego concerning potential relocation talk, because they have the same issues that OAK and STL has (stadium & attendance).   

[I-10east]

Lacanfora is an idiot looking for page views.

I totally agree especially his bias against the Jags; Other morons like Florio love to throw around the misguided relocation talk too. Although concerning the Rams, the city of STL have seen better days, and bottom line with the stadium deadline coming, and the Inglewood land out there, IMO the Rams currently have the most concerning situation barring some miraculous Hail Mary in STL.

With the Raiders, it's literally came from the horses mouth (Mark Davis) that he's gonna try to stay in Oakland, but LA is something that he's thought about. 

[pierre]

Oakland always made the most sense for me for a few reasons. I don't think the NFL wants to abandon a market. They would do that (for a second time in 30 years) with the Rams leaving. Just like the NFL worked to get the Vikings a new stadium, they could do the same in St Louis. With Oakland, they essentially share a market with the Niners. The NFL will still be there if the Raiders leave. And the Raiders are already the most popular team in LA anyway.

[KenFSU]

LA is far more valuable to the NFL as an ever-looming threat than as an actual NFL market. It's the Los Angeles threat that forces teams and cities into upgrading or replacing perfectly adequate stadiums to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, even if they haven't even finished paying off the previous one. It's also the Los Angeles threat that guilts locals into purchasing overpriced tickets to see terrible teams play, just so they don't get the reputation as a bad/unappreciative fanbase. Take the bogeyman out of the equation, and the NFL loses a lot of leverage. There's always London, but I think people realize that the logistics of a full-time London team don't really make a lot of sense.

[I-10east]

I think that people forget that it's all about the NFL owners in particular, and not the NFL. It doesn't matter on what I think should happen, or Florio, or what your heart wants (many people 'hearts' wanted JAX to move) it's all balls down to the particular NFL owner and if he wanna relocate or not; Of course all NFL owners have to approve a relocation, and that's hardly an insurmountable feat, esp with all three rumored teams having former ties to LA.

Just looking at this relocation talk from a unbiased perspective...

St Louis- One has to question can a shrinking city like STL support 3 professional franchises. STL has lost alot of it's businesses; Even it's shining beacon, Anheuser Busch is now a subsidiary (Inbev). In St Louis, the Cardinals are king, and the Blues has a significant history there. I've talked about Stan Kroenke's Inglewood land, Edward Jones Dome stadium lease ad nausem. I can't see how anybody realistically think that the future of the St Louis Rams isn't in a world of uncertainty. 

Oakland- The owner Mark Davis has been upfront, he would like to stay in Oakland, but if they don't get their acts together there, SO Cal is in his sights. I believe everything that he says, and it doesn't sound like he's hiding anything. It is what it is. I really don't think that he wanna move, but given the opportunity of Oakland not getting a new stadium, he eventually will.

San Diego- Same issues as OAK & STL with stadium problems and attendance. Qualcomm is most likely the worst in the league. Attendance has been spotty over the years. The owner Alex Spanos doesn't seem committed to SD, but he hasn't beating the drum concerning moving to LA, or any major red flags (ie STL). This team seems to be the least of concern.

Objectively, if I was to vote concerning the 'highest potential to move' to 'the lowest potential' it would be in that exact order, STL, OAK, then SD.

[I-10east]

The city of San Diego is commencing with new stadium talks. Good to see that SD's mayor is showing his concern. Good luck getting things done in Cali bureaucratic hell.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/29/chargers-san-diego-to-commence-stadium-talks/   

[spuwho]

I don't see how Oakland will ever be a viable market. That stadium is a dump and they aren't building them a new one. The Raiders have always made the most sense for LA but I don't see a new stadium being built there. The talk about Portland being a potential destination is interesting.

Portland won't happen.

They tried once before and the Seahawks ownership group made it clear that they consider Portland in their marketing area.  If someone even tries to work with the city govt. on it, look for serious lobbying by the Seahawks with the other owners to block it or some major long term compensation for the loss of market. Just the compensation would be enough to scare away anyone.

People had rumored for years that Paul Allen (owner of the Blazers) would do something, but his role in the Seahawks Stadium deal would negate it.

[spuwho]

Oakland has a somewhat poor situation on their hands.

They aren't really big enough of a market to support 2 dedicated stadiums. Unfortunately, the Coliseum is dated and the Raiders hate the sharing needed when the 2 seasons overlap. The new revenue sources other NFL teams are getting out of their stadiums is making them uncompetitive.

The Al Davis / Pete Rozelle feud is in the grave now so they have some options, but lets face it, the Raiders front office reputation is really bad, even if Al is long gone. What city would want them when they have a rep of being so cantankerous? You notice that no one in LA is fighting to get them back.

Ownership in St Louis is making all the necessary moves to describe STL as "in breach" of their stadium agreement. Geez, they are even arguing if the scoreboards are considered in the "top 10" in the NFL! Excuse me, can someone go call up the scoreboard judging committee of the NFL and have them send our dispute to arbitration?

It's that bad.

[Wacca Pilatka]

Portland won't happen.

They tried once before and the Seahawks ownership group made it clear that they consider Portland in their marketing area.  If someone even tries to work with the city govt. on it, look for serious lobbying by the Seahawks with the other owners to block it or some major long term compensation for the loss of market. Just the compensation would be enough to scare away anyone.

People had rumored for years that Paul Allen (owner of the Blazers) would do something, but his role in the Seahawks Stadium deal would negate it.

Agreed, even though Portland is wealthy enough to support another pro team.

Not just because of the infringement on the Seahawks' territory, but because there's no NFL-caliber stadium.  IIRC there was a major funding battle in Portland a few years back re: building a MLB-caliber baseball stadium vs. an MLS-caliber soccer stadium and the soccer stadium won in a landslide, and locals' resistance to a baseball park and its cost lead me to think there's no way they'll support building an NFL stadium.

Also, when Portland had a USFL team, support was virtually nonexistent.

[mtraininjax]

Good article in the Times Union about Ralph Wilson and what he did for the fans of Buffalo - He signed a 6-year lease with the City of Buffalo to keep the Bills in Buffalo, now the smallest TV market, next to Green Bay. So with Buffalo shrinking in size, and their attempts to move games to Toronto ( a bust) to build a larger fan base, the new owner would have to break the lease, raise revenue from all sorts of sources to be able to service the 800 million dollar value of the club. The ownership is in a trust so the team can be sold, now that Wilson has moved on.

Look out LA, here come the Bills is how I see it.

[I-10east]

It seems like Donald Trump is serious about owning the Bills. He says that he would keep them in Buffalo. I think that it's hilarious, LOL. You can't make this stuff up. They'll be known as the Buffalo Dollar Bills.

"Doug Marrone, as head coach you definitely had your positive moments with the team, and you're a great motivator and all, but unfortunately expectations haven't been met; Doug Marrone, YOU'RE FIRED!!!.......Leave my office NOW!!!" 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/14/trump-plans-to-make-a-run-at-buying-the-bills/

[duvaldude08]

I know right! As soon as seen his name I was like " OH God here we go". After watching the special on how he destroyed the USFL, stay far far away from the NFL. Question is, how would the NFL feel about allowing him to be owner after he brought suit against them when he was in the USFL?