Occupy Jax is coming...

[FayeforCure]

Faye,

I heard that the gathering was going to be at Memorial Park.  Did I hear wrong?

  More details, please!

http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=296434583702409




Occupy Jacksonville's Third Meeting

Amy Hilton invited you · Share · Public Event.

Time


Saturday, October 22 · 11:00am - 5:00pm




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Location


Riverside Park

753 Park Street




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Created By


Occupy Jacksonville




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More Info


11:00-12:00pm Gather, Make Signs

12:00-1:00pm Rally (Everyone has the opportunity to join the Stack and speak for two minutes)

1:00-2:00pm Teach-in (Experts will lecture on key areas related to the movement)

2:00-3:00pm General Assembly (Business Meeting/Work Group Presentation of Motions)

3:00pm March to First Guaranty Bank across from the Riverside Arts Market and then disperse and show patronage to all the small local businesses (Remember - we must NOT disturb the Arts Market, but instead encourage it. They are the 99%!).

Some Working Groups may choose to meet up back in the park at 4pm.

[acme54321]

[bobsim]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/chris-hedges-on-occupy-wall-street-this-one-could-take-them-all-down/

[FayeforCure]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/chris-hedges-on-occupy-wall-street-this-one-could-take-them-all-down/

Thank you for posting this bobsim!

Wow.........that explains how the cops in Jax are so sympathizing.

The power structure of the ruling elite will come down little by little in such movements........

He also mocks the "I feel your pain" lingo that the power structure has employed to pacify the masses.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Tj8UlxhfJLw?

Chris Hedges is a writer and former war correspondent who has a vast amount of real-life experience covering social change and revolution in areas of strife and conflict around the world. The former NY Times contributor, was interviewed during last weekend’s Occupy Wall Street demonstration at Times Square, and provided a fascinating and emotional commentary on the populist movement calling for wealth equality and an end to the seeming plutocracy alleged by protesters.

[Ocklawaha]

From each according to his ability, to each according to their need!

[FayeforCure]

From each according to his ability, to each according to their need!

Hi Ock........thanks for weighing in.

I assume you agree with privatize the profits and socialize the losses..............after all that is according to corporate ability..........and the public's needs are irrelevant anyway:

[BridgeTroll]

I have been hoping for Occupy Jax to actually occupy something.  Have you guys picked out a park to camp in yet?

[peestandingup]

Here's a few I took today:

[FayeforCure]

Yay, I'm in picture 4 and 5!!

[hillary supporter]

That's nice...a great protest march at an art market/non-political gathering.  They're really showing well!

They're showing well up here, too.  They tried to break into a hospital, borderline turning violent (300-400 of them).  They are now inciting riots against the city because the city is going to shut down a homeless shelter and allow the building owner to renovate his own property into something beneficial to the community.  Did I mention this homeless shelter refuses to follow code, does not screen residents, does not do job placement, and allows blatant drug and alcohol abuse, even going so far as to promote it with programs at the across the street extended stay motel and nearby convenience stores?  No other homeless shelter has any problems, and they are beneficial and humane to the homeless and to the surrounding areas, yet because EVERYONE has a problem with Peachtree Pine (INFAMOUSLY bad shelter), the anarchist Occupy____ group is going to riot and encourage riots.

These people are making fools of themselves, and now it has been proven they are nothing more than ultra lib anarchists.  They really don't represent the 99%, but rather the most extreme 5%.

It was kind of cool at first, but now anyone with any self worth would not be caught dead associating with this crowd.  Even the liberal publications/dailies/papers up here and around the country are distancing themselves to a degree from Occupy_____.  Peaceful is morphing into aggressive, which we'll have to see if that will then morph into violence like we hear about in other parts of the world, including Europe.

While many question the specifics of the movement ( and rightfully so)  OWS continues to grow and, at least at this time, hasnt fallen apart from the novelty of the protests. Even simms3 conceded, "its kind of cool at first" but it seems that a lot of people are becoming "associated with the cause". It seems clear that the group doesn't really care for the specifics that opponents criticize them. Even the points made of how the people are there only to protest are meaningless when we should recognize that this group is looking for a political direction. Its here that the Democrats will capitalize in the elections of 2012.
Newt Gingrich is the only republican that has reached out, conceding favor in the movement and specifically saying they should carry their argument to D.C.
I find Gingrich the most competent candidate of the republicans, both a conservative who was inside but is now outside. He could easily unite the party. But he has no campaign $$$$$!

[FayeforCure]

I have been hoping for Occupy Jax to actually occupy something.  Have you guys picked out a park to camp in yet?

Not possible.............police keep protesters walking throughout the night!!!!

ORLANDO, Fla | Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:07pm EDT

ORLANDO, Fla (Reuters) - Police arrested 19 anti-Wall Street protesters in Orlando before dawn on Saturday on trespass charges for sitting in a city park after hours despite warnings to leave, police said.

Orlando Police Lieutenant Timothy Crews said police warned members of the Occupy Orlando group several times they would be arrested if they refused to leave the park when it closed. But protesters chose to remain in violation of the posted hours.

"They decided to make a stand on that issue," Crews said.

Crews and Shayan Elahi, a volunteer lawyer for the group, said the protesters remained calm and peaceful.

Those arrested face a first-degree misdemeanor charge punishable by up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Participants of Occupy Orlando, the local offshoot of the Occupy Wall Street movement that began in New York last month to protest against economic inequality, have maintained a vigil in downtown Orlando since last Saturday.

Elahi said an average of 50 protesters normally walk on the sidewalk in shifts overnight, which is permitted.

(Reporting by Barbara Liston; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Cynthia Johnston)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/22/us-wallstreet-protests-orlando-idUSTRE79L26520111022

And in New York Public Parks consider prohibiting public access to public parks as well:

Occupy Wall Street supporters target REBNY over parks access
The real estate association took some heat on Twitter, Facebook
October 21, 2011 12:15AM

By Miranda Neubauer

Supporters of the Occupy Wall Street movement have now begun targeting the Real Estate Board of New York on social media and then in turn by phone, following news reports that REBNY seeks to submit a proposal to the city limiting the public access hours of privately owned public parks.

As has been widely reported, protesters affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street movement have for several weeks been camped out in Lower Manhattan's Zuccotti Park, which is owned by Brookfield Properties but is open to the public around the clock. Brookfield has expressed some misgivings about the presence of the protesters, and last week the commercial property owner, manager and developer called off a planned clean-up operation of the park scheduled for sanitary purposes at the last moment, even as the protesters began taking the clean-up into their own hands and vowed to  resist any attempt at their removal.

In response to an opinion article in today's New York Times by Jerold Kayden, a professor of urban planning at Harvard University, on the legal gray area of such privately owned public spaces, and the news reports of REBNY's plans, a Twitter user called @OccupyMyCat this morning posted, "Announcement! It's time to Occupy REBNY, the Real Estate Board of New York!" In a related post, the Twitter feed @OccupyWallStNYC posted "Some #OccupyAdvice 2 concerned citizens: Make sure #RealEstateBoard doesnt [sic] close parks on 'reasonable' use pretext," and encouraged its followers to call REBNY's main number to "tell them not 2 pressure city 2 close parks."  That post was shared on Twitter at least 64 times.

Occupy Wall Street organizers were not immediately reachable for comment.

Another Twitter user encouraged followers to post on REBNY's Facebook page. At least one comment on the association's Facebook page by Meghan Hines stated, "Your public spaces were gifts from the city. Don't forget that." It was later deleted. Although Twitter users made direct reference to @REBNY's twitter feed, it did not respond to those tweets in any way.

Steven Spinola, president of REBNY, said that the board received a handful of "polite" phone calls on the subject.

He said that REBNY's discussions about the proposal to bring the opening hours of privately owned public parks in line with those of city parks were in their early stages and "would probably take somewhere between six months and a year to actually carry out."

He noted that Central Park and other parks have a 1 a.m. closing time for security reasons.

"So we kind of believe that there should be similar hours for privately owned public spaces and that they have the same concerns about security," Spinola said, "and actually these places are in more residential neighborhoods, including Zuccotti Park, than the [middle of] Central Park is," where residents could also be more bothered by noise.

Spinola said that REBNY's discussions about a new policy were not intended as a direct response to the current protests in Lower Manhattan.

"This has nothing to do with what is taking place down at Zuccotti Park, other than the fact that it's drawn attention to the fact that privately owned public spaces are treated differently than parks [owned by the city]," he said. "This has nothing to do with the people that are down there now; that's going to be dealt with through other mechanisms."

Spinola said the issue came up in conversations he has had with people who are involved with plazas and similar spaces.

Earlier this week, it was reported that new signs forbidding camping had gone up at several public spaces owned by Brookfield and Rudin Management in Midtown.

John Zuccotti, U.S. chairman of Brookfield and former president of REBNY, and for whom the Lower Manhattan park was named, declined to comment. Rudin could not immediately be reached for comment regarding the REBNY proposal, but a spokesperson provided the following statement regarding the signage: "There was signage in some of our locations. It has been enhanced in keeping with City Planning Commission regulations and following the recent recommendations from REBNY on this issue." The Department of City Planning could not immediately be reached for comment.

http://therealdeal.com/newyork/articles/occupy-wall-street-supporters-target-rebny-and-president-steven-spinola-over-parks-access-on-twitter-and-facebook

[Ocklawaha]

Hola mis Colombiana!

While I neither believe in Communism or Socialism as a blanket one-size-fits-all governing system, I'm not beyond appropriating one of their favorite slogans to promote what I believe.  If we could keep the potentially violent revolutionary types from hijacking events like this, it would be wonderful to ramp up enough pressure to see US Corporations start worrying about their employees as much as their bottom line. It's bad enough that certain guardians of living wages are equally corrupt and no longer truly represent the rank and file.  Corporations that make a decision to squeeze another nickles worth of profit from some widget in their manufacturer by shuttering the plant, firing the work force and moving the entire operation to BFE, out to be outed in some way and be made to face the wrath of the true Americans. 

I also believe in AMERICA as a collection of states, North, South and Central, from polar Alaska to Tierra del Fuego. Had the American companies been given a carrot and stick treatment to keep them in the America's nobody would be protesting anything. Call it 'States Rights', 'isolationism', or 'protectionism', some of these concepts from our past ought to be revisited. Who among us would flinch if after learning that Utah (for example)  had virtually no manufacturing left, so 50 Florida companies agreed to set up facilities and split production and distribution between the two states? We'd probably cheer with pride. The same should be true of production and distribution shared between the USA and every other American state, regardless of continent. The Native American prophecy of "The Eagle and the Condor" uniting and bringing in an era of world peace is reachable.

When our very survival was challenged in 1941, American industry rallied to out produce every player in the world wide struggle. Wal-Mart as recently as the 1980's advertised that they promoted and sold American made products, today there is hardly an American product in the store. The clerks and store level management are not making a living wage and like a bunch of lemmings we all patronize it because it's cheap. Next time we get into a worldwide rhubarb (and history says we will, in fact it's overdue) what do we have left to fight with? Might I suggest Coca-Cola and Cape Cod Potato Chips...? That'll teach them! Freaking tragic.

Oh my God Faye, maybe we have more in common then we thought?! Okay, I'm off my random soapbox.

THE EAGLE AND THE CONDOR PROPHECY
NOTE: In the prophecy, the Eagle represents the highly technical North American World, the Condor represents the indigionus peoples of ALL of the Americas.

According to the prophecy of the eagle and condor, we are at the beginning of the "Fifth Pachacuti", a time when the condor will rise again and will once again fly together wing to wing in the same sky as the eagle and the world will come into balance. It is a time of partnership, love and healing, and a transition out of an era of conflict and turmoil into more sustainable and earth-honoring ways. It will be a time of great transition but also with some dangers. The condor will not soon forget the domination of the eagle. The eagle must also change to help restore the balance.

OCKLAWAHA

[FayeforCure]

Hola miss Colombiana!

While I neither believe in Communism or Socialism as a blanket one-size-fits-all governing system, I'm not beyond appropriating one of their favorite slogans to promote what I believe.  If we could keep the potentially violent revolutionary types from hijacking events like this, it would be wonderful to ramp up enough pressure to see US Corporations start worrying about their employees as much as their bottom line. It's bad enough that certain guardians of living wages are equally corrupt and no longer truly represent the rank and file.  Corporations that make a decision to squeeze another nickles worth of profit from some widget in their manufacturer by shuttering the plant, firing the work force and moving the entire operation to BFE, out to be outed in some way and be made to face the wrath of the true Americans.

I also believe in AMERICA as a collection of states, North, South and Central, from polar Alaska to Tierra del Fuego. Had the American companies been given a carrot and stick treatment to keep them in the America's nobody would be protesting anything. Call it 'States Rights', 'isolationism', or 'protectionism', some of these concepts from our past ought to be revisited. Who among us would flinch if after learning that Utah (for example)  had virtually no manufacturing left, so 50 Florida companies agreed to set up facilities and split production and distribution between the two states? We'd probably cheer with pride. The same should be true of production and distribution shared between the USA and every other American state, regardless of continent. The Native American prophecy of "The Eagle and the Condor" uniting and bringing in an era of world peace is reachable.

Oh my God Faye, maybe we have more in common then we thought?! Okay, I'm off my random soapbox.

THE EAGLE AND THE CONDOR PROPHECY
NOTE: In the prophecy, the Eagle represents the highly technical North American World, the Condor represents the indigionus peoples of ALL of the Americas.

According to the prophecy of the eagle and condor, we are at the beginning of the "Fifth Pachacuti", a time when the condor will rise again and will once again fly together wing to wing in the same sky as the eagle and the world will come into balance. It is a time of partnership, love and healing, and a transition out of an era of conflict and turmoil into more sustainable and earth-honoring ways. It will be a time of great transition but also with some dangers. The condor will not soon forget the domination of the eagle. The eagle must also change to help restore the balance.

OCKLAWAHA

So true, I DO think we have more in common than we thought.

Interesting second paragraph.......I also think Central and South America have been relatively neglected as we were fixated on improving things in Africa. (US's strategy may have been to keep things in disarray in Central and South America). I'm trying to learn Portuguese right now, as 300 million Brazilians in South America speak it, and I'm darn proud they have a female President...........no that's not the real reason

Dating a Brazilian man, I will soon travel to Brazil.

So wish to check out Colombia again. How often do you visit?

[urbanlibertarian]

I have been hoping for Occupy Jax to actually occupy something.  Have you guys picked out a park to camp in yet?

I vote we occupy the Gold Club because, you know, it just sounds like 1%ers would hang out there.

[buckethead]

I have been hoping for Occupy Jax to actually occupy something.  Have you guys picked out a park to camp in yet?

I vote we occupy the Gold Club because, you know, it just sounds like 1%ers would hang out there.

Perhaps our local protesters aren't  jobless leaches looking to hook up and get high, after all?

Maybe working and paying taxes is preventing our protesters from camping out?

I haven't heard these ideas expressed on the news so I suppose it's highly unlikely.