Jacksonville mayor comes out against new toll road

[tufsu1]

yes...all planners and consultants are bad...and all part of a giant conspiracy

guess that also goes for advocacy groups, huh?

[Dashing Dan]

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/400669/larry-hannan/2011-09-20/alan-mosley-resigns-head-fdot-northeast-florida

curiouser and curiouser !

[tufsu1]

yep...learned of this yesterday...I think it is fair to surmise that the Governor is a bit displeased with the whole back-and-forth on the beltway w/ the Mayor...and someone had to take the fall

[thelakelander]

Heard about this earlier this morning but was asked not to say anything.  There's a lot going on that the average guy is oblivious too.

[Dashing Dan]

Firing the district secretary isn't going to move this project forward.  It's toxic now.  Who would want to touch it?

[ChriswUfGator]

Heard about this earlier this morning but was asked not to say anything.  There's a lot going on that the average guy is oblivious too.

I don't think many around this site are average guys.

I have mixed feelings on Brown's stance with Scott, on the one hand I'm happy to see it just on principle, and obviously there has never been a project more worth scrapping than this one, so I welcome any additional monkey wrench that gets thrown into it. But on the other hand it's kind of like reading a court decision where the judge reaches the right decision for all the wrong reasons, I wish Brown would take stock of the long-term consequences of turning it into a highway at all, and address the real issue which is whether or not to build it at all, not just tolls. This just has no business being built.

[tufsu1]

for once we agree!

[thelakelander]

+1000

[jcjohnpaint]

x 2000

[north miami]

  There's a lot going on that the average guy is oblivious too.

That prety much describes past decades.

[Dashing Dan]

  There's a lot going on that the average guy is oblivious too.

That prety much describes past decades.

I'm often oblivious to stuff that's going on.  It's one of my defining characteristics.

[north miami]

  There's a lot going on that the average guy is oblivious too.

That prety much describes past decades.

I'm often oblivious to stuff that's going on.  It's one of my defining characteristics.

aw come on now,I know you are more alert and curious than that.

More a matter of issue identification and development,exposure.  News and information.

[tufsu1]

from the JAXUSA Partnership (formerly Cornerstone) e-newsletter....nice spin!

Outer Beltway Receives City and State Support
The First Coast Outer Beltway project began about 10 years ago and quickly picked up speed with the commitment to build a high-speed interchange at I-10 and Cecil Field. Some of the original construction was developed along the way. Now the opportunity to bring the road up to its full potential means adding public and private support and providing a return on investment for those private funds. Every county in Northeast Florida has had strong support for this road for the last eight years as it is the most important road infrastructure project that we expect over the next 25 years.

The Outer Beltway has received support from both Mayor Alvin Brown and Gov. Rick Scott to move forward. The Outer Beltway is a vital project that will help meet the region's growing infrastructure needs. It will bring hundreds of millions of dollars in investment and will add nearly 1,000 construction jobs. The Outer Beltway project will also help us attract new companies and jobs to our region. The Outer Beltway will provide the needed infrastructure to serve our growing region and help us avoid congestion in the decades to come.

[thelakelander]

I'm all for public/private partnerships but who is the private entity?  Please don't tell me that's what we're calling the turnpike authority these days?  Also, what percentage of the hundreds of millions in new investment will be publicly subsidized?  Something tells me no Outer Beltway advocate wants to peel and expose the insides of that onion.

[Dashing Dan]

Whether you like this project or not, this doesn't sound to me like a project that is moving forward.