Europe's Quiet Revolution, a Model for the US?

Started by FayeforCure, August 17, 2011, 09:16:42 AM

BridgeTroll

Quote from: FayeforCure on August 24, 2011, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: KuroiKetsunoHana on August 23, 2011, 03:06:00 PM
i'm not surprised.  faye's a lot like me--all talk, no action.

bridge, i don't think focusing on florida's the way to do it--that makes it look like we're just moving military dollars out ov florida into other states.  while i don't claim to have the education or the general knowledge to have an opinion on specifically which bases/suppliers/whatever should be cut, i think cuts should be distributed (as) evenly (as possible) across the country.

Maybe you should do a google search...........have you ever run for US Congress?

I have: there were 150,000 voters who voted for me!

But I agree with you that we can make across the board cuts in our defense contracts and have the contractors figure out ways to save in their own operations.

Boeing, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics and Raytheon should be forced to streamline their operations........we simply cannot afford the bloated contracts that have been awarded.

QuoteGolden decade is ending for defense industry, and stocks
By Jonathan Fahey, Associated Press

NEW YORK – The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are winding down, Osama bin Laden is dead, and the federal government is deeply in debt. This spells the end of what was a golden decade for the defense industry.


In the decade since the Sept. 11 attacks, the annual defense budget has more than doubled to $700 billion and annual defense industry profits have nearly quadrupled, approaching $25 billion last year.

Now defense spending is poised to retreat, and so are industry profits. "We're about to go into the downhill side of the roller coaster here," said David Berteau, a defense industry analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

MORE: Cutting defense won't be easy
Congress agreed last month to cut military spending by $350 billion over the next 10 years. The defense budget will automatically be cut another $500 billion over that period if lawmakers fail to reach a deficit-cutting deal by November

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2011/08/Golden-decade-is-ending-for-defense-industry-and-stocks/50000766/1



So... did you run on cutting any Florida bases?  Any Florida based defense contracts?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

FayeforCure

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Quote from: BridgeTroll on August 24, 2011, 12:20:03 PM
So... did you run on cutting any Florida bases?  Any Florida based defense contracts?

You mean, I can't do what Republicans do and run on:
1. Cut Taxes
2. Small government

That's all I ever hear Republicans talk about besides the customary social issues like abortion, guns and gays and of course some other anti-women issues.

And then get elected to cut disability, medicare, social security, education and unemployment benefits?
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BridgeTroll

So what you are saying is... like most democrats... you talk about cutting defense spending... but just not in my state or district.  The state of Florida thanks you... :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Garden guy

Quote from: FayeforCure on August 24, 2011, 03:53:42 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on August 24, 2011, 12:20:03 PM
So... did you run on cutting any Florida bases?  Any Florida based defense contracts?

You mean, I can't do what Republicans do and run on:
1. Cut Taxes
2. Small government

That's all I ever hear Republicans talk about besides the customary social issues like abortion, guns and gays and of course some other anti-women issues.

And then get elected to cut disability, medicare, social security, education and unemployment benefits?

IT's the permanent mantra of the republicans...personally i think that they all forgot that they are'nt the only ones on in the universe and it's not all about them...history will tell the truth and it will scream...."thier way causes mayhem..." the republican party reminds me of the roman empire way back when they were killing anyone that did'nt believe in jesus...lol...i'm sure there are republican leaders along with their preachers that would love to bring back the ole ways...."if they aint like us...killem..."