Gov. Rick Perry Our Next President?

Started by ronchamblin, August 07, 2011, 10:01:50 AM

Midway ®

Do you miss RG yet? By comparison he seems like a Nobel Laureate. This year's crop is found wanting. Oh well, the quality of everything is in decline.

vicupstate

"The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

kathy Jackson

Hey......how can this guy be a Christian?
Hes GAY.
Christians under no circumstances can be gay.......NONE!
He either has to not be gay or he can't be a christian.
What is this country turning into, a bathhouse?
There are too many crises going on to be arguing with stupid people

MusicMan

The Repubs are SCREWED this time around. The Tea Baggers HATE Mitt Romney and all the independants and swing voters are going to run like hell away from another evangelical Governor from Texas. There is no way they
are going to beat the Obama team. Love or hate his policies, he has at least been a Gentleman and a good family man. If he can find and kill Ayman al Zawahiri then this election is over.

johnnyman

Quote from: copperfiend on August 08, 2011, 02:26:08 PM
Rick Perry is basically GW Bush 2.0

Naw,, Obama is basically GW Bush 2.0 on steroids.  Despite rhetoric that suggests the contrary, President Obama’s economic policies are strikingly more of the same failed policies that Bush tried before him. This is unfortunate because, as New York Times columnist Paul Krugman claims, the last decade has seen declining private-sector employment and declining median household income.

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: johnnyman on August 11, 2011, 10:00:39 PM
Quote from: copperfiend on August 08, 2011, 02:26:08 PM
Rick Perry is basically GW Bush 2.0

Naw,, Obama is basically GW Bush 2.0 on steroids.  Despite rhetoric that suggests the contrary, President Obama’s economic policies are strikingly more of the same failed policies that Bush tried before him. This is unfortunate because, as New York Times columnist Paul Krugman claims, the last decade has seen declining private-sector employment and declining median household income.

I know, he even started another war and boosted defense spending. I really think he Republicans ought to just go ahead and nominate Obama over his objections, you'd think they'd really love him. He's as bad as Bush.


KuroiKetsunoHana

Quote from: ChriswUfGator on August 12, 2011, 01:24:38 PM
I know, he even started another war and boosted defense spending. I really think he Republicans ought to just go ahead and nominate Obama over his objections, you'd think they'd really love him. He's as bad as Bush.
that's probably where a lot ov the racism allegations come from--noöne can come up with another reason why so many republicans hate him so much.

having said that, i don't think he's anywhere near that bad.  though i feel a bit let down, i don't regret voting for him.
天の下の慈悲はありません。

Garden guy

With a congress as we have..the republicans leading...Obama has'nt been able to do a damn thing with the obstructionist group...they made that clear from the beginning..they'll bring this country to it's bloody knees just to make him fail....they should be arrested...

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Garden guy on August 12, 2011, 03:36:52 PM
With a congress as we have..the republicans leading...Obama has'nt been able to do a damn thing with the obstructionist group...they made that clear from the beginning..they'll bring this country to it's bloody knees just to make him fail....they should be arrested...

Yeah, well Congress didn't start the war with Libya. In fact, they're pretty pissed about it. I agree with Kuroi, I feel let down by Obama. Although the question of Obama vs. McCain and that scary thing he nominated as his VP is a no-brainer, just on the Palin factor alone. If McCain's plane crashed or something, the last thing we can take a chance on is having that big-haired buffoon running the country.

But yeah, I feel very disappointed in Obama. And I can't figure out WTF the conservatives are so upset about with him, he's done everything wrong that they would have done and then some. Extended the Bush tax cuts, gives corporate handouts, panders to special interests, starts another war and resultant boon in defense spending, kisses ass to the financial services industry, and on and on and on. I can say with a straight face that he's a better republican than any of the current crop of republicans is. Sadly, much to my chagrin.


duvaldude08

Obama can only do what congress lets him. Congress never wanted him to succeed. They have worked against him the entire time he has been in office. So if anything, we should be disappointed with Congress. Their agenda has been to make him fail at any costs. I will keep my mouth close about why they want him to fail... Just know its more than just the fact he is a democrat.......
Jaguars 2.0

johnnyman

Quote from: duvaldude08 on August 12, 2011, 04:09:07 PM
Obama can only do what congress lets him. Congress never wanted him to succeed. They have worked against him the entire time he has been in office. So if anything, we should be disappointed with Congress. Their agenda has been to make him fail at any costs. I will keep my mouth close about why they want him to fail... Just know its more than just the fact he is a democrat.......

I admit I don't know alot about this stuff but wasn't congress run by the Democrats since 2007?  So Obama's own party were working against him?  That sux for him,,, I think they still let him spend a bunch of money though,, Keansian-style.

Here is how Bush and Obama are the same economically anyway.  I think everyone agrees they are both war mongers.

1. Bush passed a $3 trillion budget for 2009. Obama posted a $3.5 trillion budget in 2010. Bush doubled the debt to almost $6 trillion and Obama’s plans would leave us with an IOU of an additional $8.5 trillion by 2020.

2. Contrary to popular belief, defense and homeland security spending only made up about 40 percent of Bush’s new spending. He increased spending across most non-defense categories â€" like education, Medicare, Medicaid, income security and regional development â€" by four to six times the rate of inflation. In Obama’s first half year in office, as he demanded a departure from the “investment deficit” years under Bush, these budgets rose another 70 percent or 40 times the rate of inflation.

3. In 2001 and 2008, Bush spent billions on rebates to stimulate consumer spending. In 2009, Obama upped the ante with his $862 billion stimulus package.

4. Obama carried out Bush’s unpopular $700 billion bailout for failing corporations. Together, the presidents have bailed out over 600 businesses since Spring 2008.

5. Once again contrary to popular belief, President Bush was the biggest regulator since Richard Nixon. Under his leadership in 2007, the number of pages of regulation added to the Federal Register reached an all-time high of 78,090 â€" a 21 percent increase from Bush’s first year. And spending on regulatory activities rose to $42 billion in 2009 â€" a 62 percent increase. Since taking office, Obama has proposed a large and sweeping increase in regulation that many worry could lead to more financial crisis in the future.

And because of alot of this,, here is where we find ourselves:

US population: 308 million
2010 US GDP: $14.7 trillion
Current US Debt: $14.3 trillion or 97% of GDP
2010 US Fed Gov't revenue: $2.3 trillion or 16% of GDP
2010 US Fed Gov't spending: $3.6 trillion or 25% of GDP
2010 US Fed Gov't spending as a percent of revenue: 157%
2010 US Fed Gov't deficit: $1.3 trillion or 9% of GDP
June 2011 US unemployment 9.2%
US working workforce 154 million people or 50% of the population
US working individuals that pay federal taxes is 50% of workforce
Percentages of US Fed Spending 2010:
Discrentionary: 37%
Defense: 20%, Education: 3.8%, Energy: 8%, Ag/Science etc 5.6%
Entitlements: 63%
Health: 11%, Medicare 13%, Income security: 15.3%, Social Security 20.2%, VA: 3%

Therefore, 25% of the population pays 100% of the tax revenu for 157% expenditures

Again,, I am new at this but this seems like this dog won't hunt for much longer.

Dog Walker

That figure you have for defense and homeland security doesn't include the cost of the two wars.  They are "off the books", remember?
When all else fails hug the dog.

ChriswUfGator

#42
Can I just say it out loud?

I've lived through 5 five presidents, although I've only been old enough to vote in two presidential elections. I still followed politics out of curiousity my whole life. I have never been more disappointed in a president than I have been in Obama. At least with Clinton, Bush I, even Bush II, you knew what you were getting, even if you didn't vote for it and really didn't like it. But Obama seemed like a one thing and then has turned into a something entirely different, he now has very little resemblance (other than physical) to Obama ca. 2008, in terms of politics and policies.

I'll say it again, he's a better republican than the actual #$%@ing republicans. But compared to the loony-bin full of alternate options that's come out of the woodwork so far, well, I just really don't like any of them, including Obama. I'm just disappointed.


BridgeTroll

QuoteI'll say it again, he's a better republican than the actual #$%@ing republicans. But compared to the loony-bin full of alternate options that's come out of the woodwork so far, well, I just really don't like any of them, including Obama. I'm just disappointed. I think we should enact an amendment waiving the normal term limit so Clinton can serve 1 more term.

I have to say I agree with you Chris.  I cannot even watch the circus that the reps are putting on in Iowa.  I could even take Clinton back... provided we pair him up with a rep congress like before...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

johnnyman

Quote from: BridgeTroll on August 13, 2011, 02:27:12 PM
QuoteI'll say it again, he's a better republican than the actual #$%@ing republicans. But compared to the loony-bin full of alternate options that's come out of the woodwork so far, well, I just really don't like any of them, including Obama. I'm just disappointed. I think we should enact an amendment waiving the normal term limit so Clinton can serve 1 more term.

I have to say I agree with you Chris.  I cannot even watch the circus that the reps are putting on in Iowa.  I could even take Clinton back... provided we pair him up with a rep congress like before...

Republican,,, Democrat,,,,????  means nothing,,,, obscure ,,,,,,   we need another fiscal conservative like Slick.  Best Prez we ever had.  Hopefully Bush/Obama era is a nightmare of the past.  Please Democrats,, wake up,, run a qualified candidate this go around.