Tea Party Republicans waged jihad on the American people

Started by FayeforCure, August 02, 2011, 09:50:41 AM

FayeforCure

"My own view is that Obama should have played the 14th Amendment card, using its language about “the validity of the public debt” to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling. Yes, he would have infuriated the Republicans, but so what? They already view him as the Antichrist."

The Bullies at work:


Tea Party's War on America
By JOE NOCERA
Published: August 1, 2011

You know what they say: Never negotiate with terrorists. It only encourages them.

These last few months, much of the country has watched in horror as the Tea Party Republicans have waged jihad on the American people. Their intransigent demands for deep spending cuts, coupled with their almost gleeful willingness to destroy one of America’s most invaluable assets, its full faith and credit, were incredibly irresponsible. But they didn’t care. Their goal, they believed, was worth blowing up the country for, if that’s what it took.

Like ideologues everywhere, they scorned compromise [Ideologues who are coincidentally awash with rich, corporate lobbyists money.]. When John Boehner, the House speaker, tried to cut a deal with President Obama that included some modest revenue increases, they humiliated him. After this latest agreement was finally struck on Sunday night â€" amounting to a near-complete capitulation by Obama â€" Tea Party members went on Fox News to complain that it only called for $2.4 trillion in cuts, instead of $4 trillion. It was head-spinning.

All day Monday, the blogosphere and the talk shows mused about which party would come out ahead politically. Honestly, who cares? What ought to matter is not how these spending cuts will affect our politicians, but how they’ll affect the country. And I’m not even talking about the terrible toll $2.4 trillion in cuts will take on the poor and the middle class. I am talking about their effect on America’s still-ailing economy.

America’s real crisis is not a debt crisis. It’s an unemployment crisis. Yet this agreement not only doesn’t address unemployment, it’s guaranteed to make it worse. (Incredibly, the Democrats even abandoned their demand for extended unemployment benefits as part of the deal.) As Mohamed El-Erian, the chief executive of the bond investment firm Pimco, told me, fiscal policy includes both a numerator and a denominator. “The numerator is debt,” he said. “But the denominator is growth.” He added, “What we have done is accelerate forward, in a self-inflicted manner, the numerator. And, in the process, we have undermined the denominator.” Economic growth could have gone a long way toward shrinking the deficit, while helping put people to work. The spending cuts will shrink growth and raise the likelihood of pushing the country back into recession.

Inflicting more pain on their countrymen doesn’t much bother the Tea Party Republicans, as they’ve repeatedly proved. What is astonishing is that both the president and House speaker are claiming that the deal will help the economy. Do they really expect us to buy that? We’ve all heard what happened in 1937 when Franklin Roosevelt, believing the Depression was over, tried to rein in federal spending. Cutting spending spiraled the country right back into the Great Depression, where it stayed until the arrival of the stimulus package known as World War II. That’s the path we’re now on. Our enemies could not have designed a better plan to weaken the American economy than this debt-ceiling deal.

One thing Roosevelt did right during the Depression was legislate into being a social safety net to soften the blows that a free-market economy can mete out in tough times. During this recession, it’s as if the government is going out of its way to make sure the blows are even more severe than they have to be. The debt-ceiling debate reflects a harsher, less empathetic America. It’s sad to see.

My own view is that Obama should have played the 14th Amendment card, using its language about “the validity of the public debt” to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling. Yes, he would have infuriated the Republicans, but so what? They already view him as the Antichrist. Legal scholars believe that Congress would not have been able to sue to overturn his decision. Inexplicably, he chose instead a course of action that maximized the leverage of the Republican extremists.

Assuming the Senate passes the bill on Tuesday, the debt ceiling will be a nonissue until after the next election. But the debilitating deficit battles are by no means over. Thanks to this deal, a newly formed supercommittee of Congress is supposed to target another $1.2 trillion to $1.5 trillion in cuts by late November. If those cuts don’t become law by Dec. 23, automatic across-the-board cuts will be imposed, including deep reductions in defense spending.

As has been explained ad nauseam, the threat of defense cuts is supposed to give the Republicans an incentive to play fair with the Democrats in the negotiations. But with our soldiers still fighting in Afghanistan, which side is going to blink if the proposed cuts threaten to damage national security? Just as they did with the much-loathed bank bailout, which most Republicans spurned even though financial calamity loomed, the Democrats will do the responsible thing. Apparently, that’s their problem.

For now, the Tea Party Republicans can put aside their suicide vests. But rest assured: They’ll have them on again soon enough. After all, they’ve gotten so much encouragement.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/02/opinion/the-tea-partys-war-on-america.html
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Garden guy


Clem1029

Quote from: Garden guy on August 02, 2011, 12:24:38 PM
So we can now call the tea party people terrorist?
Only if one wishes to demonstrate they don't want to be taken seriously.

Captain Zissou

My vote for Most Sensational Thread Title of the Year!!!!!

Garden guy

I don't see anyting wrong with the title...they spin stuff about our president which are lies and turned truth...would'nt that be concidered social and political terrorism and should they get a pass on thier lies and untruths?

Non-RedNeck Westsider

That whole 'taken seriously' could also go for those too lazy or too ignorant careless with their lack of spell/grammar check.

While this is a tad on the personal attack level, I feel it's relevant based on the attack that GG places against the right on every comment he makes.   Maybe GG, you should have paid more attention in english and grammar and civics than listening to the librel slant that all of your hippie-lettuce smoking buddies were feeding you and then you could attempt to post a fact-based, relevant statement.
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civil42806

Well at least the progressive community has found someone that they can classify as a terrorist

Dog Walker

When all else fails hug the dog.

RMHoward

Disagree with the Liberal view and your either classified as a racist, or now a terrorist.  Others nasty names to follow im sure.  Its the liberal way......name calling and hate speech. 

Dashing Dan

Name-calling aside, If I loved my wife the way those "Republicans" love their country, I'd be in jail for sure.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.  - Benjamin Franklin

RMHoward

Right, how dare they insist we stop spending money we dont have supporting liberal created, never ending, feel good, corrupt social welfare programs.  Certainly, they are terrorist. And im sure you love your country more than Republicans as long as its giving you what you want, when you want it .   

Dashing Dan

I love God, my wife, my children and my country. 

I do not love taking back money that I've already promised to pay.

If Congress is having second thoughts about debts that it has already incurred, why does that give them the right to throw everybody into the crapper?
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.  - Benjamin Franklin

FayeforCure

#12
Quote from: Dashing Dan on August 02, 2011, 06:20:48 PM
I love God, my wife, my children and my country. 

I do not love taking back money that I've already promised to pay.

If Congress is having second thoughts about debts that it has already incurred, why does that give them the right to throw everybody into the crapper?

So true! As the article says:

QuoteOne thing Roosevelt did right during the Depression was legislate into being a social safety net to soften the blows that a free-market economy can mete out in tough times. During this recession, it’s as if the government is going out of its way to make sure the blows are even more severe than they have to be. The debt-ceiling debate reflects a harsher, less empathetic America. It’s sad to see.

And here is the warning hard-core Republicans need to remember (it is so sad to see us making the same mistake again):

QuoteInflicting more pain on their countrymen doesn’t much bother the Tea Party Republicans, as they’ve repeatedly proved. What is astonishing is that both the president and House speaker are claiming that the deal will help the economy. Do they really expect us to buy that?

We’ve all heard what happened in 1937 when Franklin Roosevelt, believing the Depression was over, tried to rein in federal spending. Cutting spending spiraled the country right back into the Great Depression, where it stayed until the arrival of the stimulus package known as World War II. That’s the path we’re now on. Our enemies could not have designed a better plan to weaken the American economy than this debt-ceiling deal.

In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
Basic American bi-partisan tradition: Dwight Eisenhower and Harry Truman were honorary chairmen of Planned Parenthood

Dashing Dan

#13
Hi Honey.  I know you didn't ask for it and I'm not sure that you even want it, but I just brought home this nice Iraq war for you.  I think that it's going to pay for itself so I didn't put anything aside for it in our family budget.  If it doesn't pay for itself, then I'll just put it on our credit card.  Then if the balance on the credit card goes up to more than we can ever pay back, I'll ask the bank to lower our credit limit down to some more reasonable amount, and I'll take some of the money that we already owe for hospital bills, and I'll use that money to pay our credit card down to just a little bit beneath that new limit.

I just hope that I don't get arrested for doing any of this.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.  - Benjamin Franklin

buckethead

The Tea Party won some congressional seats.

They were sent there to cut spending. (By the voters)

It is un-American (at least it used to be) to cut spending by not paying your obligations.

The Tea Party now finds itselfwith no seat at the table when the real spending and cutting negotiations commence. We'll get DC insiders to do the negotiations. The same people who have been in congress for my entire adult life.

Maybe they'll make some real headway regarding the deficit, debt, and economy...


....RIGHT!

Another thought in the form of a question: Did those who voted for the Stupor Congress do so as to be able to claim they played no part in the continuation of more of the same?