Exploring Downtown's Commodore Point

Started by Metro Jacksonville, July 28, 2011, 03:24:07 AM

Garden guy

Quote from: tufsu1 on July 28, 2011, 10:21:25 PM
wow....the 47,000 vehicles per day on the Hart Bridge sounded high....so I just checked....FDOT 2010 cout was 30,500 in 2010 (probably because of the painting project).

But here are the counts over the last 10 years

2004 - 46,500
2005 - 59,000
2006 - 47,000
2007 - 63,500
2008 - 43,000
2009 - 42,000
2010 - 30,500

Note that 2007 was when the Mathews Bridge was under construction....so we may see a similar spike in traffic on the Hart over teh next few years, as the Mathews is about to be repainted.
I see the drop in cars is due to the complete emptying of our downtown of its workers...remember most of the buildings downtown are empty....

tufsu1

well before anyone buys 100% into that logic GG, here are the counts on the Mathews Bridge during the same period:

2004 - 72,000
2005 - 68,000
2006 - 72,000
2007 - 74,000
2008 - 67,500
2009 - 66,500
2010 - 66,500

the odd thing is that the highest year was 2007, when the bridge was under construction.

btw....note that traffic counts all over the state (and in the country for that matter) are down 5-10% over the last five years....that's due to the spikes in gas prices that began in 2005 as well as the recession and slow recovery.

Beloki

I never hear complaints from San Diego or Sydney Australia residents complaining about having a Zoo in their core. I also think that this location would be great since they can share the Jax Stadium parking lot for example.. connect all with a nice park back to the shipyards. Right now this isn't a place in downtown that attracts visitors or tourists now does it.......
I think we should create a downtown where tourists/visitors can stay in a hotel and never have to leave the core (rent a car) for dining, shopping and other attractions.

joeregistre

I honestly think they (The City) should take all that land and turn it into a park. New York has Central Park. Chicago has Grant and Lincoln Park. Looking at it now and it's just depressing. Imagine all that space there as a park during the Gator Bowl and Jaguar games. It would compliment EverBank Feild perfectly. Gives people somewhere to go and an awesome place to talilgate. Imagine the priceless views you get of both the Matthews and Hart Bridge from that area. Reminds me very much of Brooklyn Bridge park in NY. Those pictures of under the Hart Bridge. Take away all the ugly shipyard mess and replace it with some green grass, trees, hills maybe with gardens with bushes and what not. How much better would that look. Extend Metro Park to loop around where all the red area is of the aerial map and give downtown Jacksonville a legit park.

In time something will be built over in the Berkman plaza area and they can connect the riverwalk there so people can walk from the Landing to the Park where EverBank Feild is for Jags and Football games. I would love to see them to that. I don't know... just my thoughts.