Governor Rick Scott and Cohorts' Fighting of Fair District's Rule is Shameful!!

Started by FayeforCure, June 10, 2011, 12:06:48 PM

FayeforCure

Fighting Fair District's rule shameful
By Barbara Brenner

Created 06/10/2011 - 12:38am

Editor: If Gov. Rick Scott and his Republican cohorts in the Legislature had done only the dirty business of cutting the budget on the backs of the poor, the sick, and the state workers it would have been shameful enough. But it gets worse. Now they've decided to use state money, at least $20 million of it according to reliable sources, to fight against the Fair Districts Law which we voters passed by more than a 60 percent majority last November and which is now part of the Florida Constitution.

In other words, this Republican Legislature not only doesn't care what we need or want, they don't even care what we vote for. They want to continue twisting the map so they control the votes and the power and the patronage. And so they're going to court, with, that's right -- our own taxpayer money -- to fight us. It's beyond shameful. It's an insult to the voters, to the taxpayers and to our democracy.

St. Augustine

http://staugustine.com/opinions/2011-06-09/letter-fighting-fair-districts-rule-shameful
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JeffreyS

This is a great shame that has been perpetrated by both parties through the years.  This is the worst example because we just voted for it. 
Lenny Smash

BridgeTroll

Did you just say... That it is shamful and insulting to go to court to get what you want??
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

JeffreyS

Come on BT this is shameful just like when Corrine Brown threatened to take this to court.  They know we don't want districts drawn up for the purpose of making sure certain people are elected as opposed to representing cohesive areas.  Going to court doesn't make it noble or shameful.  The purpose here is what is shameful.
Lenny Smash

JeffreyS

And yes taking us to court with our own tax money is poring salt in the wounds.
Lenny Smash

BridgeTroll

I am sure to hear... "There goes BT again..."  BUT... this is a common and accepted practice amongst democrats everywhere.  Don't like the law... bring a lawsuit... don't like the election... sue.  Cant get a law passed... find a judge who will rule the way you want.

COME ON!  ::) ( can we get a bigger rolleyes? :))

I'm not even saying I agree with what Scott and company are doing.  But whatever it is... going to court to get it is certainly is not shameful... nor insulting... unless of course the unending laundry list of frivolous suits by Dems is also shameful and insulting.  Then we could agree. :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

PeeJayEss

Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 10, 2011, 01:35:33 PM
I'm not even saying I agree with what Scott and company are doing.  But whatever it is... going to court to get it is certainly is not shameful... nor insulting... unless of course the unending laundry list of frivolous suits by Dems is also shameful and insulting.  Then we could agree. :)

So why don't we just agree that both are shameful and insulting (as is just about everything that any politician in any party ever does)? Then we can move on to the real fight, which isn't Dems versus Repubs, but rather representative who serve the people versus representatives who serve themselves.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: stephendare on June 10, 2011, 01:46:02 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 10, 2011, 01:35:33 PM
I am sure to hear... "There goes BT again..."  BUT... this is a common and accepted practice amongst democrats everywhere.  Don't like the law... bring a lawsuit... don't like the election... sue.  Cant get a law passed... find a judge who will rule the way you want.

COME ON!  ::) ( can we get a bigger rolleyes? :))

I'm not even saying I agree with what Scott and company are doing.  But whatever it is... going to court to get it is certainly is not shameful... nor insulting... unless of course the unending laundry list of frivolous suits by Dems is also shameful and insulting.  Then we could agree. :)

I think this is a pretty poisonous non productive way to deal with things, bridge troll and it usually just ends in nothing getting done.

The answer to everything simply cannot be "Well, so and so did it too!".

Its just a way to avoid ever doing anything about anything.

Im sure that you arent for that.

I tend to agree with you Stephen...  I submit less of that would happen if one side was not calling the methods of the other side shameful and insulting when they consider their very own use of the same tactics as honorable and noble.

I suppose it matters which side of the mirror you are on huh...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

Quote from: PeeJayEss on June 10, 2011, 01:49:54 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 10, 2011, 01:35:33 PM
I'm not even saying I agree with what Scott and company are doing.  But whatever it is... going to court to get it is certainly is not shameful... nor insulting... unless of course the unending laundry list of frivolous suits by Dems is also shameful and insulting.  Then we could agree. :)

So why don't we just agree that both are shameful and insulting (as is just about everything that any politician in any party ever does)? Then we can move on to the real fight, which isn't Dems versus Repubs, but rather representative who serve the people versus representatives who serve themselves.

I like THAT idea PJS!
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

You must be refering to the tactic of "demonizing your opposition" method of debate... Lessee... who oh who is the master of this?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

Quote from: stephendare on June 10, 2011, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 10, 2011, 02:07:24 PM
You must be refering to the tactic of "demonizing your opposition" method of debate... Lessee... who oh who is the master of this?

So you are still deflecting by pointing out that someone else did it as well?

Well OK.  Doesnt sound like you agree with PeeJayEss at all.

I... agree with PJS... you however seem to have a problem with it.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

Quote from: stephendare on June 10, 2011, 02:20:13 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 10, 2011, 02:18:39 PM
Quote from: stephendare on June 10, 2011, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 10, 2011, 02:07:24 PM
You must be refering to the tactic of "demonizing your opposition" method of debate... Lessee... who oh who is the master of this?

So you are still deflecting by pointing out that someone else did it as well?

Well OK.  Doesnt sound like you agree with PeeJayEss at all.

I... agree with PJS... you however seem to have a problem with it.

Well apparently your Right hand has no idea what your moderate hand is agreeing to.  Thats all Im sayin.

We actually get along with each other quite well.  Communication is the key.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

JeffreyS

This is tantamount to attempted election fixing. It is shameful to do this by any party with the courts or any other method.

I don't see how Faye's original post spins it as only shameful because Mr. Scott is going to court.  It is because of what he is trying to do and get us to pay for.

Lenny Smash

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: PeeJayEss on June 10, 2011, 01:49:54 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on June 10, 2011, 01:35:33 PM
I'm not even saying I agree with what Scott and company are doing.  But whatever it is... going to court to get it is certainly is not shameful... nor insulting... unless of course the unending laundry list of frivolous suits by Dems is also shameful and insulting.  Then we could agree. :)

So why don't we just agree that both are shameful and insulting (as is just about everything that any politician in any party ever does)? Then we can move on to the real fight, which isn't Dems versus Repubs, but rather representative who serve the people versus representatives who serve themselves.

There's a representative who serves the people instead of his/herself? Which one is it?  ;D


Dog Walker

The people speak in an overwhelming referendum and the politicians try to stop what the people have voted for.  Yes, that's shameful.

If the Republican party was paying the legal fees it would merely be partisan.
When all else fails hug the dog.