CoRK; Jax has an art district!

Started by jerry cornwell, June 06, 2011, 01:10:15 PM

obie1

There is an article about the cork studios in this months Arbus magazine. Can anyone tell me what the price range is for the studios? What does the cheapest one go for? Is it calculated by square foot and if so how small is the smallest. Numbers would be good cause i have friends looking and they are paying $1 a square foot right now which is a good deal but would move studios if they can find something better.

jerry cornwell

Quote from: obie1 on December 06, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
There is an article about the cork studios in this months Arbus magazine. Can anyone tell me what the price range is for the studios? What does the cheapest one go for? Is it calculated by square foot and if so how small is the smallest. Numbers would be good cause i have friends looking and they are paying $1 a square foot right now which is a good deal but would move studios if they can find something better.
Some of the smaller studios go for as little as $250. The larger ones top out at like $750. And they are large. Remember, if youre intimidated by the price, you can share with others. Smaller are about 300 sq ft. Larger ones around 1000 to 1200 sq ft. Thats a nice size.
Re simms3. One thing thats unprecedented is the utilities furnished, hvac air co year round. And the prices are just unbelievable! The newest phase "down off Roselle and Park"  DoRK... heh, heh,..... is incredible along enormous large public space deemed for performance.
I reccommend ,obie1, you contact Dolph James and take a tour of the spaces...... you will FREAK!
Democracy is TERRIBLE!  But its the best we got!  W.S. Churchill

obie1

thanks for the info. Steeper than i thought and about the same they are paying but i will pass it on because they might be interested in checking it out anyway. It sounds like there is a lot of potential there.

JaxNative68

is it only one building? if so, can it be considered a district?

jerry cornwell

Quote from: JaxNative68 on December 07, 2011, 05:29:30 PM
is it only one building? if so, can it be considered a district?
The building at CoRK contains 7 studios, the 2nd phase contains 17 more studios. There are several other artists
located throughout the area, neighborhood..... district.
Democracy is TERRIBLE!  But its the best we got!  W.S. Churchill

simms3

Quote from: jerry cornwell on December 06, 2011, 04:55:53 PM
Quote from: obie1 on December 06, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
There is an article about the cork studios in this months Arbus magazine. Can anyone tell me what the price range is for the studios? What does the cheapest one go for? Is it calculated by square foot and if so how small is the smallest. Numbers would be good cause i have friends looking and they are paying $1 a square foot right now which is a good deal but would move studios if they can find something better.
Some of the smaller studios go for as little as $250. The larger ones top out at like $750. And they are large. Remember, if youre intimidated by the price, you can share with others. Smaller are about 300 sq ft. Larger ones around 1000 to 1200 sq ft. Thats a nice size.
Re simms3. One thing thats unprecedented is the utilities furnished, hvac air co year round. And the prices are just unbelievable! The newest phase "down off Roselle and Park"  DoRK... heh, heh,..... is incredible along enormous large public space deemed for performance.
I reccommend ,obie1, you contact Dolph James and take a tour of the spaces...... you will FREAK!


You're right.  A gross lease for $7.50-$10/SF is pretty darn cheap!!! (I'm assuming all pass throughs including utilities are included)  Is there anything to compare it to?  I ask because I would imagine budding artist studios would normally be pretty cheap for their respective metros, especially considering they are often in buildings owned by organizations that are pioneers in poor areas where prices are already depressed, and especially considering budding artists don't make much in the first place.  Are there grants available on top of these cheap prices?

Also, is it possible for someone to make an investment in the artist if they think that artist has potential to make it big?  By this I mean is it possible to contract with an artist to cover all of his current and future expenses in return for a share of all future profits?  Do people do that?
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JaxNative68

I still have a hard time labeling it a district.  By your definition, all of Savannah and St Augustine should be labeled as an art district.  At this point in time the area around cork has the potential of becoming an art district, but isn't actually one yet.  I hope cork can continue to grow, and one day be the foundation of a strong surrounding art district.

ricker

Semantics.
CoRK
DoRK is poised to be the beginning of a legs 3 and 4 of a finely crafted homemade chair of artists and creatives living in our inner city.

I'm very happy to have them in my 'Hood and excited to watch them continue to grow!

Who has noticed all the new lighting between the breweries!??
The area is definitely improving!

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: ricker on December 08, 2011, 09:45:52 AM
Who has noticed all the new lighting between the breweries!??
Not I.  I usually pass-out face down.   :D
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jerry cornwell

Quote from: simms3 on December 07, 2011, 07:53:37 PM

Also, is it possible for someone to make an investment in the artist if they think that artist has potential to make it big?  By this I mean is it possible to contract with an artist to cover all of his current and future expenses in return for a share of all future profits?  Do people do that?
I'm not familar with such in visual arts, although i have heard of such in music. But such is usually deemed a bad investment. That was the advice i was told in terms of musical artists.
Obviously, the best investment in an artist is to buy their art. Other business options are available like publishing li mited edition prints, poster, ect, but i dont need to tell you such is a precarious venture in the least!
Democracy is TERRIBLE!  But its the best we got!  W.S. Churchill

obie1

Quote from: jerry cornwell on December 08, 2011, 07:35:26 PM
Quote from: simms3 on December 07, 2011, 07:53:37 PM

Also, is it possible for someone to make an investment in the artist if they think that artist has potential to make it big?  By this I mean is it possible to contract with an artist to cover all of his current and future expenses in return for a share of all future profits?  Do people do that?
I'm not familar with such in visual arts, although i have heard of such in music. But such is usually deemed a bad investment. That was the advice i was told in terms of musical artists.
Obviously, the best investment in an artist is to buy their art. Other business options are available like publishing li mited edition prints, poster, ect, but i dont need to tell you such is a precarious venture in the least!

Quote from: jerry cornwell on December 08, 2011, 07:35:26 PM
Quote from: simms3 on December 07, 2011, 07:53:37 PM

Also, is it possible for someone to make an investment in the artist if they think that artist has potential to make it big?  By this I mean is it possible to contract with an artist to cover all of his current and future expenses in return for a share of all future profits?  Do people do that?
I'm not familar with such in visual arts, although i have heard of such in music. But such is usually deemed a bad investment. That was the advice i was told in terms of musical artists.
Obviously, the best investment in an artist is to buy their art. Other business options are available like publishing li mited edition prints, poster, ect, but i dont need to tell you such is a precarious venture in the least!

Of course this happens all the time simms3. The technical term is "marrying rich;D

It should be called the CorK art center or Cork studios rather than the art district because that sounds silly with just one building. I got relatives in Hoboken and am here a lot and there is a big building full of artists but that is not called an art district. same in nyc no big old building full of artist studios on its own makes it a district. Chelsea is an art district because there are lots of studios and lots of buildings with artists and galleries. You can find a ton of stand alone factory buildings in queens and brooklyn filled with artists too but that does not make the blocks they are on art districts. I think your name is confusing right now. Art building or Center sounds legit District just sounds fake or trying way too hard until there is one. Brewery district i dont see as big a problem with since there are two different breweries close to each other. 

jerry cornwell

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Quote from: obie1 on December 08, 2011, 08:14:05 PM


Of course this happens all the time simms3. The technical term is "marrying rich;D

It should be called the CorK art center or Cork studios rather than the art district because that sounds silly with just one building. I got relatives in Hoboken and am here a lot and there is a big building full of artists but that is not called an art district. same in nyc no big old building full of artist studios on its own makes it a district. Chelsea is an art district because there are lots of studios and lots of buildings with artists and galleries. You can find a ton of stand alone factory buildings in queens and brooklyn filled with artists too but that does not make the blocks they are on art districts. I think your name is confusing right now. Art building or Center sounds legit District just sounds fake or trying way too hard until there is one. Brewery district i dont see as big a problem with since there are two different breweries close to each other. 
To clarify from my post earlier, there are several other artists in the area that have buildings, one of which is across Kings street. I know the NYC art region well, as i worked in Dumbo and Hoboken for years. As (most) here will understand, even with the small size that it is, for Jacksonville, it stands fair for us to label ourselves as an art district.
You can call it whatever you want, if it "sounds fake" or "trying way too hard", it is one.
Democracy is TERRIBLE!  But its the best we got!  W.S. Churchill

obie1

okay then i stand corrected. I thought it was just the one building, not a few. My bad.

jerry cornwell

Quote from: obie1 on December 08, 2011, 11:47:44 PM
okay then i stand corrected. I thought it was just the one building, not a few. My bad.
No problem. Of note to the area, Shaun Thurston has a studio across Cork on Roselle. There are a few studios remaining
at CoRK Studio B. One can pass the word that if bands want a rehearsal space this is an unbelievable opportunity. Bands have
both storage, recording and rehearsal space and, to  get more out of your money, you can share the studio with other bands splitting
the costs.
Democracy is TERRIBLE!  But its the best we got!  W.S. Churchill

I-10east

Sorry to be that 'not knowing' guy, but what does 'CoRK' stand for?